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| 298892 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 1 | txgrinder | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T08:39:23-0500 | My wife and I were reminiscing this morning, wondering if it's really as bad in CA as you "hear" or if its just state of mind for those who "escaped"? In all honesty, I'd live there again, even in the current climate that seems rampant. Anyone mind giving some input from their perspective? Disclaimer: This is NOT NOT NOT a political discussion and please don't assume I am some Trump loving death monger. It's a simple question of "what is like currently to reside in SD or OC county. When we left in 2020 to come back to my wife's home state of Texas, it was pretty tough to make it on anything less than a 6 figure income 2 kiddos. The political/social climate I just ignored. I have a good many friends who are firearm instructors in the state, so I know what my limitations or hurdles are there. I did meet a pretty nice family from OC at the last Tactical Games I competed in. The parents drive their 2 teenagers around to compete in these events. They told me that the OC kinda stayed out of the BS and just did it's own thing. No mask enforcement and all the stuff that happened 2 years ago. Our small Texas town here has very quickly turned into an over run chaotic mess with all of the immigrants, not just Californians (Oregonians, Washington, Colorado, Nevada). It really is VERY notable how different it is here even a year later. I counted 3 expired CA plates yesterday...no doubt trying to avoid the horrendous CA fees that the DMV can be. It's no longer safe haven here. Traffic is as bad as anywhere I drove in SD county and the infrastructure is suffering due to the demand. Sound familiar??? Anyways, thought it would be good to hear from the real boots on the ground, not the disgrunts who are now in my sandbox, sans changed thinking or Texas ideals. |
| 298897 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 2 | Darth Waver | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T09:49:31-0500 | The weather is still great in SD. There is surf. You can get the best burrito on the planet anytime you want. Beaches are crowded. Gas is high. Water is going up. Electricity is unbearable. Homelessness is a major problem. If you want to eat, groceries with 2 kids is probably equivalent to a mortgage in the middle of the country. Homes are at least double what they cost ten years ago. The roads suck. Taxes are f$&@ing ridiculous. Gavin Newsom. As a surfer, I find it annoying as f$&@ that the cost of state parks are so high. Availability of camping so bad. We pay the taxes but get treated the same as the tourists from Europe or the Zonie in for the weekend. Can’t we catch a locals rate or early access to camping? |
| 298898 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 3 | PeakMaster | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T10:07:41-0500 | Rubio's alone would have been enough for me to live in SD County. But good, if not great Mexican is all over the NJ shore areas now. |
| 298899 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 4 | Ricksurfin | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T10:14:47-0500 | In my opinion, the positives still highly outweigh the negatives and I can’t imagine living somewhere else. Too many people get caught up in complaining about what’s wrong instead of enjoying what’s right. A positive mindset goes a long way. |
| 298903 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 5 | shadydave | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T10:48:38-0500 | Ricksurfin said: In my opinion, the positives still highly outweigh the negatives and I can't imagine living somewhere else. Too many people get caught up in complaining about what's wrong instead of enjoying what's right. A positive mindset goes a long way. Click to expand... Spot on Rick! 1/2 full not 1/2 empty, I have yet to figure out why that concept is so hard to grasp. |
| 298904 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 6 | miscreant | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T10:49:51-0500 | Ricksurfin said: A positive mindset goes a long way. Click to expand... ^^ this. Life is what you make it. As citizens of the United States of America, we are privileged and fortunate people. |
| 298906 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 7 | personalityprofile | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T10:59:44-0500 | California isn't as bad as Californians say it is |
| 298907 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 8 | Zzz | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:00:38-0500 | I moved from SD for family reasons over the course of 2020-2021 but have been back 7-8 times for work and pleasure since. It doesn’t really seem like much has changed. The surf got way more crowded in 2020 and that continues. But all the good stuff is still great. The difficult stuff is still there (there was basically no commuter traffic in 2020 but it seems like it’s 100% back to pre COVID levels on my recent visits). Any sort of media narrative that things have changed dramatically seems way overblown and targeted at people who want to hear it. I moved from one expensive part of the country to another (although gas is pretty cheap here!). That being said cost of living has increased everywhere and raising kids is expensive everywhere. |
| 298909 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 9 | Surfertom | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:37:02-0500 | shadydave said: Spot on Rick! 1/2 full not 1/2 empty, I have yet to figure out why that concept is so hard to grasp. Click to expand... I'm with these guys . . . ha. Happy where I am. ST |
| 298910 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 10 | txgrinder | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:38:27-0500 | Ricksurfin said: In my opinion, the positives still highly outweigh the negatives and I can't imagine living somewhere else. Too many people get caught up in complaining about what's wrong instead of enjoying what's right. A positive mindset goes a long way. Click to expand... I agree my man. Would love to hear more on this if you get time. |
| 298911 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 11 | txgrinder | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:41:27-0500 | Zzz said: I moved from SD for family reasons over the course of 2020-2021 but have been back 7-8 times for work and pleasure since. It doesn't really seem like much has changed. The surf got way more crowded in 2020 and that continues. But all the good stuff is still great. The difficult stuff is still there (there was basically no commuter traffic in 2020 but it seems like it's 100% back to pre COVID levels on my recent visits). Any sort of media narrative that things have changed dramatically seems way overblown and targeted at people who want to hear it. I moved from one expensive part of the country to another (although gas is pretty cheap here!). That being said cost of living has increased everywhere and raising kids is expensive everywhere. Click to expand... I think this is well stated. I don't disagree entirely. I'll be candid. My ONE issue is the ability to have and carry a firearm. But, I am not trying to start that discussion here. I know many would disagree and I don't want to go down that pointless path. Your last statement is 100% fact. |
| 298913 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 12 | Darth Waver | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:44:18-0500 | Don’t get me wrong. I love it here and put up with all the stuff I don’t like because it’s easy to stay positive here. Just trying to keep it real with the question in terms of affordability and raising a family. And maybe discourage any more people from moving here |
| 298915 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 13 | txgrinder | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:49:16-0500 | Bodhi1502 said: Don't get me wrong. I love it here and put up with all the stuff I don't like because it's easy to stay positive here. Just trying to keep it real with the question in terms of affordability and raising a family. And maybe discourage any more people from moving here Click to expand... Good honest input. And man, I feel like people needing to be discouraged from moving ANYWHERE decent is a full time job. LOL... |
| 298917 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 14 | Driftwood | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:50:18-0500 | I was back in April and for whatever it's worth, I still think it's a great place. A few of my friends on either side of the polictical spectrum were really whipped up about this or that, and unhappy because of it, but they were in the minority. Everyone is really aware of the realities of traffic, high cost of living, etc., and that is what it is. That being said, from my brother to my folks to most of my good friends - in terms of their actual quality of daily life - they are super aware of being in a place that allows so much, and so much of it is so accessible... Good surf, good fishing, great food, insane weather, the list goes on. Geez, dawn patrol and then a lagoon hike with the kids? Sounds good! Pretty easy to get out in the back country in real terms if you need some space. Somebody always has a boat for an offshore run to dive or fish... bitchin'! Or just walking around North County with my dad who's in his eighties and can do more outside because the climate is so mellow. That made me happy in and of itself. Those who were focused on what they can actually do, and making the most of that with their family and friends, were as stoked as ever. |
| 298918 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 15 | Driftwood | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:54:55-0500 | PS - I'm not dillusional about the cost though. Damn expensive by pretty much anywhere's standards. Making it on a "normal" income requires being able to think and live differently from the crazy standards most people are reaching for.... but again, I don't mind driving a 15 year old car or living with less square footage if the overall life quality is there by my standards. Thanks for asking the question, by the way. Good to think about perspective. |
| 298919 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 16 | miscreant | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:55:28-0500 | One thing that should be mentioned: there are nice used boards for sale. Like this gem: 9'10" Surfboards Hawaii |
| 298920 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 17 | Darth Waver | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:57:03-0500 | Driftwood said: I was back in April and for whatever it's worth, I still think it's a great place. A few of my friends on either side of the polictical spectrum were really whipped up about this or that, and unhappy because of it, but they were in the minority. Everyone is really aware of the realities of traffic, high cost of living, etc., and that is what it is. That being said, from my brother to my folks to most of my good friends - in terms of their actual quality of daily life - they are super aware of being in a place that allows so much, and so much of it is so accessible... Good surf, good fishing, great food, insane weather, the list goes on. Geez, dawn patrol and then a lagoon hike with the kids? Sounds good! Pretty easy to get out in the back country in real terms if you need some space. Somebody always has a boat for an offshore run to dive or fish... bitchin'! Or just walking around North County with my dad who's in his eighties and can do more outside because the climate is so mellow. That made me happy in and of itself. Those who were focused on what they can actually do, and making the most of that with their family and friends, were as stoked as ever. Click to expand... So agree with "aware of the realities." Regardless of your politics, you know it's limited supply and high demand. You get to justify if it's worth it to you. Just like that Takayama! |
| 298921 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 18 | LogFeliz | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T11:59:09-0500 | miscreant said: One thing that should be mentioned: there are nice used boards for sale. Like this gem: 9'10" Surfboards Hawaii Click to expand... The availability of quality used boards here in SoCal is one more thing pushing up the cost of living |
| 298922 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 19 | miscreant | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T12:01:40-0500 | LogFeliz said: The availability of quality used boards here in SoCal is one more thing pushing up the cost of living Click to expand... ? Care to elaborate? |
| 298924 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 20 | txgrinder | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T12:05:08-0500 | Driftwood said: PS - I'm not dillusional about the cost though. Damn expensive by pretty much anywhere's standards. Making it on a "normal" income requires being able to think and live differently from the crazy standards most people are reaching for.... but again, I don't mind driving a 15 year old car or living with less square footage if the overall life quality is there by my standards. Thanks for asking the question, by the way. Good to think about perspective. Click to expand... We think the same. I currently live like this and have zero issues with it. Very good and honest perspective you have. Appreciate it. I agree that quality of life on the daily far outweighs the other bullshit people chase. |
| 298925 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 21 | LogFeliz | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T12:09:28-0500 | miscreant said: ? Care to elaborate? Click to expand... Too many temptations! In all seriousness, other than housing and childcare I don't find the cost of living here in LA unbearable. It's not like NYC where it feels like everything costs money - you can have a great day without spending a dollar here, as long as you afford where you live. I'd have a hard time living anywhere else at this point. The personal freedom and lack of interpersonal judgment are unrivaled, and it's good-to-great in most of the things I enjoy in life. |
| 298928 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 22 | Moustache Lou | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T12:22:40-0500 | I grew up in SD, and though I’ve lived in a handful of other places, I still (and always will) consider it ‘home’. Within the past few months I went through the (relative) trauma of losing a job and having to look for a new one. I was seriously considering relocating to Huntsville, Alabama because there’s a lot of the kind of work I do there, and consoled myself with the thought that the price of living is about half of what it is here, and I could likely get more into hunting (which for someone fairly lazy about traveling is pretty difficult living in SD County). I’d basically have to give up surfing and the type of fishing I’ve done all my life though, so I consider myself extremely lucky to have found a new job right here, and with the same short commute I had with the last one. I live right in the heart of downtown, and there are certainly issues and inconveniences to deal with. My one bedroom condo doesn’t have the storage space for a large quiver of boards, but I manage to keep six logs and a few ‘short’ boards (plus a good amount of fishing gear) witout too much trouble. Getting boards to and from the car (especially longboards) is a bit of a hassle, but I’ve done my best to convince myself that that’s just part of the ‘ritual’. I have multiple breaks within a half hour drive from home and the north county reefs aren’t too much farther away. Trying to be respectful of the idea that this post was not intended to be in any way political, I’ll just say that in my opinion (then again, what the hell do I know?) many of the very real issues we’re experiencing in California are in fact political at their root, but a) I don’t see that changing any time soon (looking at recent history) and b) I refuse to let THAT chase me away. Wow… I just typed a lot more than my originally intended ‘San Diego is still a pretty rad place to live’……….. |
| 298931 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 23 | B2Lose | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T12:34:06-0500 | Same as it ever was imho. Expensive, a bit too crowded, but amazing way to live if you can afford it. I maintain that San Diego is the easiest very large city in America to enjoy. |
| 298933 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 24 | Bummer Dude | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T12:35:22-0500 | Bodhi1502 said: As a surfer, I find it annoying as f$&@ that the cost of state parks are so high. Availability of camping so bad. We pay the taxes but get treated the same as the tourists from Europe or the Zonie in for the weekend. Can't we catch a locals rate or early access to camping? Click to expand... Agree with most what's been said already regarding overall quality of life, cost of living, etc Do want to point out on these two things particularly 1) all California residents can check out state park passes from their local library for as long as you are allowed to check out books (had my current one since September). 2) the state camping reservation system is going to change in 2024 or 2025 in a couple ways that should make it easier to find a camping spot |
| 298934 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 25 | Skegg | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T12:37:08-0500 | I left in 2018, so I can't comment on what it's like now. I miss CA often, but the cost of living was astronomical. We often look at property there and are discouraged when we see the combo of mortgage plus HOA fees. Though, I will say that the east coast nickel and dimes you for many things that CA does not. Not to mention the privatization of ocean access here. Certain surf spots have $20 parking fees regardless of whether you're there for an hour or all day, some even have an added fee if you're surfing. |
| 298935 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 26 | txgrinder | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T12:43:04-0500 | jrusso7881 said: I grew up in SD, and though I've lived in a handful of other places, I still (and always will) consider it 'home'. Within the past few months I went through the (relative) trauma of losing a job and having to look for a new one. I was seriously considering relocating to Huntsville, Alabama because there's a lot of the kind of work I do there, and consoled myself with the thought that the price of living is about half of what it is here, and I could likely get more into hunting (which for someone fairly lazy about traveling is pretty difficult living in SD County). I'd basically have to give up surfing and the type of fishing I've done all my life though, so I consider myself extremely lucky to have found a new job right here, and with the same short commute I had with the last one. I live right in the heart of downtown, and there are certainly issues and inconveniences to deal with. My one bedroom condo doesn't have the storage space for a large quiver of boards, but I manage to keep six logs and a few 'short' boards (plus a good amount of fishing gear) witout too much trouble. Getting boards to and from the car (especially longboards) is a bit of a hassle, but I've done my best to convince myself that that's just part of the 'ritual'. I have multiple breaks within a half hour drive from home and the north county reefs aren't too much farther away. Trying to be respectful of the idea that this post was not intended to be in any way political, I'll just say that in my opinion (then again, what the hell do I know?) many of the very real issues we're experiencing in California are in fact political at their root, but a) I don't see that changing any time soon (looking at recent history) and b) I refuse to let THAT chase me away. Wow… I just typed a lot more than my originally intended 'San Diego is still a pretty rad place to live'……….. Click to expand... I am not afraid of political commentary and I agree with what you said. I just didn't wan… |
| 298939 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 27 | Bummer Dude | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T13:38:00-0500 | The way I see it, the biggest political issue is cost of living, which when you peel everything away comes down to housing cost (spills over to labor costs, cost of goods, root cause of homelessness regardless any other popular theories). And though there maybe is some political movement on this, the “political” discourse doesn’t really have any real answers: lower taxes is probably the most common assertion from the right (agree that our taxes are poorly structured and revenues rely way to much on incomes as opposed to property and wealth which also contributes to the issues - thanks prop 13!) and probably the only coherent response on the left is addressing symptoms like building housing for homeless. Neither addresses the core issues and the core fixes are wildly unpopular. Housing cost comes down to an intractable problem of competing interests, essentially we can’t at the same time have: 1) a desirable place to live and move with geographic limitations, 2) cities and towns retaining size/“character”, 3) safe buildings and clean environment, and 4) affordable housing, of course there is some balance in all of these. Currently as a state we are intentionally countering 2 and 3, through a slew of state laws to reduce local blockages due to density/character concerns, and cutting red tape specifically related to CEQA and environmental protections that are constantly abused by nimby groups and localities to block development. The historical overvaluing of 2 and 3 is what has led us to current situation of abandonment of 4, which is driving the unintentional solution to 1 - driving down desirability by too high cost of living, compounded by decline in quality of life through increased homelessness, relative poverty and its associated social problems. Perhaps those things will work in concert over the coming years to reach some sort of equilibrium ie decreased demand + fewer barriers to development = reduced cost. But I think the overall desirability of living in California, plus limited real estate (… |
| 298948 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 28 | KB949 | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T14:38:53-0500 | As a CA native, growing up in San Clemente and now living in San Francisco I may be a little bias. It is not anywhere near as bad as the media makes it seem. Sure, prices are high, taxes stink, it can get crowded, and people steal shit. We are the largest populated state and the third largest state. The numerous major metro cities make us an easy media target. CA is not perfect by any means and can improve a lot like most people have stated. That is not my place to give advice. When you live somewhere you know when and where to go places to avoid the crowds and tourism. You learn to navigate and adapt your routines. Just like I'm sure everyone has in their hometowns. We are creatures of habit. Surfing continues to become more accessible and popular and does not seem to be slowing down even after covid. Although when you live somewhere, and put the time in to explore and get to know your area, you can find pockets both in and out of the water to get some alone time if that is what you want. The positives of living in CA out weigh the negatives in my book. There is so much surf access, mountain access, deserts, forests, state parks, national parks, BLM land, etc. Most of them world class destinations. You can go from the beach to the mountains in the same day if you want to (the California double dip). And quite literally participate in any activity you are into within an hour of your home (usually). You can live in small secluded towns, or busy large cities. Travel is easy from CA, from driving to flying you are pretty central to a lot of amazing destinations. There is something here for everyone and I think that is the lure of living in CA. |
| 298972 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 29 | Moustache Lou | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T17:52:57-0500 | Bummer Dude said: Agree with most what's been said already regarding overall quality of life, cost of living, etc Do want to point out on these two things particularly 1) all California residents can check out state park passes from their local library for as long as you are allowed to check out books (had my current one since September). 2) the state camping reservation system is going to change in 2024 or 2025 in a couple ways that should make it easier to find a camping spot Click to expand... I looked into the library thing… damned if I don't need to go get a library card for the first time in decades… Cardiff/San Elijo here I come! |
| 298974 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 30 | Darth Waver | Dec 2, 2023 | 2023-12-02T18:02:19-0500 | jrusso7881 said: I looked into the library thing… damned if I don't need to go get a library card for the first time in decades… Cardiff/San Elijo here I come! Click to expand... It's great. I've used it a few times since they started doing it. |
| 298996 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 31 | txgrinder | Dec 3, 2023 | 2023-12-03T07:51:31-0500 | jrusso7881 said: I looked into the library thing… damned if I don't need to go get a library card for the first time in decades… Cardiff/San Elijo here I come! Click to expand... Yes, thanks to @Bummer Dude for an excellent piece of info! I always bought one, but this is good to know. |
| 298998 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 32 | txgrinder | Dec 3, 2023 | 2023-12-03T07:59:28-0500 | KB949 said: As a CA native, growing up in San Clemente and now living in San Francisco I may be a little bias. It is not anywhere near as bad as the media makes it seem. Sure, prices are high, taxes stink, it can get crowded, and people steal shit. We are the largest populated state and the third largest state. The numerous major metro cities make us an easy media target. CA is not perfect by any means and can improve a lot like most people have stated. That is not my place to give advice. When you live somewhere you know when and where to go places to avoid the crowds and tourism. You learn to navigate and adapt your routines. Just like I'm sure everyone has in their hometowns. We are creatures of habit. Surfing continues to become more accessible and popular and does not seem to be slowing down even after covid. Although when you live somewhere, and put the time in to explore and get to know your area, you can find pockets both in and out of the water to get some alone time if that is what you want . The positives of living in CA out weigh the negatives in my book. There is so much surf access, mountain access, deserts, forests, state parks, national parks, BLM land, etc. Most of them world class destinations. You can go from the beach to the mountains in the same day if you want to (the California double dip). And quite literally participate in any activity you are into within an hour of your home (usually). You can live in small secluded towns, or busy large cities. Travel is easy from CA, from driving to flying you are pretty central to a lot of amazing destinations. There is something here for everyone and I think that is the lure of living in CA. Click to expand... 100% spot on. I had it pretty well dialed when I was there just a few years ago and never had an issue getting a non-crowded spot. That was another thread in here some months back that was good discussion. My main concern is freedom to do what I want to do and not be bothered with my hobbies a… |
| 298999 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 33 | personalityprofile | Dec 3, 2023 | 2023-12-03T09:06:25-0500 | What 'freedom' is restricted in California? I feel free to do pretty much anything I want here. It seems like the only thing you're not free to be here is poor. |
| 299063 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 34 | txgrinder | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T08:41:15-0500 | personalityprofile said: What 'freedom' is restricted in California? I feel free to do pretty much anything I want here. It seems like the only thing you're not free to be here is poor. Click to expand... Exactly....what YOU want....and that may or may not be what I want. I am guessing the freedoms I am concerned about are not ones you would not care or know anything about. My current state of daily life would make me a felon there, but here I am "free" to do as I please and keep my family and community safe. I can do it there, but it would be a headache and an expense I'd have to go through. I have a few memories of people there very much putting their nose where it didn't belong regarding the way I do things. Some it wouldn't bother. I am not one of the some. It very much grates on me to have someone butt in where they are not invited. I'll leave it at that. Those are ways of living I would have to decide if I wanted to deal with or not. |
| 299077 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 35 | Qustom | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T11:18:57-0500 | Bummer Dude said: 1) all California residents can check out state park passes from their local library for as long as you are allowed to check out books (had my current one since September). Click to expand... Wow now there's a little known nugget that has me glad I read this thread. |
| 299080 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 36 | Qustom | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T11:32:00-0500 | To this fourth generation San Diegan born in '61 the one thing that really stands out to me above the cost of living here is the relative filth of "America's Finest City" now vs. previous decades. It can be pretty depressing to make the drive up 163 south out of Mission Valley (just one example, it's pretty much everywhere) and see scattered trash, overgrown weeds in the center divide, furniture and appliances ditched on the side of the road, and so on. Then again the depression is usually greatly lessened on a nice sunny day, and gets much worse on the occasional gray and dreary one. Just my .98¢ (adjusted for inflation) |
| 299081 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 37 | Moustache Lou | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T11:41:28-0500 | Qustom said: To this fourth generation San Diegan born in '61 the one thing that really stands out to me above the cost of living here is the relative filth of "America's Finest City" now vs. previous decades. It can be pretty depressing to make the drive up 163 south out of Mission Valley (just one example, it's pretty much everywhere) and see scattered trash, overgrown weeds in the center divide, furniture and appliances ditched on the side of the road, and so on. Then again the depression is usually greatly lessened on a nice sunny day, and gets much worse on the occasional gray and dreary one. Just my .98¢ (adjusted for inflation) Click to expand... It's pretty bad (and depressing) in certain areas of downtown… tents literally lining the streets, along with the trash one would expect from such a situation…. And nobody (read: 'the Government') seems to be even attempting to do anything about it. And I'm pretty sure there's really nothing private citizens can do (if I'm mistaken here, someone please correct me). |
| 299082 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 38 | Qustom | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T11:41:49-0500 | I hope posting this doesn't qualify as bringing up "politics" (who knows these days...) but if you haven't seen this series yet it's so spot on for this thread that I just had to let it fly: 6 episodes in total, so if the first one hooks you be prepared to budget a good half hour or so for the rest. Pure comedy gold IMHO. |
| 299083 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 39 | Qustom | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T11:44:57-0500 | jrusso7881 said: It's pretty bad (and depressing) in certain areas of downtown… tents literally lining the streets, along with the trash one would expect from such a situation…. And nobody (read: 'the Government') seems to be even attempting to do anything about it. And I'm pretty sure there's really nothing private citizens can do (if I'm mistaken here, someone please correct me). Click to expand... Have you seen the old parking lot on the east side of the 5 and south of the S curve that is covered with red tents? Seems to be some sort of effort to build a tent city for the homeless. I haven't heard much about it in the news, but this could be because I don't pay attention to the news. Sure doesn't seem to have helped much. |
| 299099 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 40 | nedsurf | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T15:00:58-0500 | San Diego now has the highest cost of living in the US. https://fox5sandiego.com/news/busin...ss/san-diego-takes-top-spot-in-ranking-of-most-expensive-places-to-live-in-u-s/ And a terrible legislature - https://sjvsun.com/california/california-facing-58-billion-deficit-over-next-two-years/ |
| 299105 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 41 | SdSurferguy | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T16:26:51-0500 | The sad reality: Home prices (rents and sales) are absurd and continuing to skyrocket. Our area has nearly doubled in rent in the last 5 years, and home prices are astronomical and continuing to grow. High mortgage rate rises don't mean anything to buyers paying cash, and the low inventory keeps demand high. Most of our new neighbors are from LA and the Bay Area. I went to a tour/talk at a reputable SD nonprofit org last week and the director said the greatest issue for their organization is lack of affordable housing. All of the flaws they are trying to fix (lack of medical care, elder care, homelessness, drug addiction, food insecurity, immigration etc) always come back to lack of affordable housing. And not much can be done about it. When people leave we know they'll likely never be able to afford to come back. The good reality: If you managed to get in early, or get creative, or push yourself hard enough, you can live in San Diego County. I shared waist/chest high cylinders in a 3/2 with @B2Lose and @glider_boy this morning, and it was nearly empty ( and maybe a bit closed out). I'm eating a California burrito as I type this, and it's 70* today Dec 4th. |
| 299109 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 42 | paipodude | Dec 4, 2023 | 2023-12-04T18:27:19-0500 | Homelessness, opiod and meth addiction, sexual abuse, mental health issues are endemic across the USA, and not just in the big cities but also the mid- and small-size cities. Of course, you won't find many homeless tent cities in the desert or at 8,000 ft up in the Rockies and there are reasons these problems arise in population centers. But in my travels across the country I have seen these issues and it is not pretty. One cause is the human side-effects of being at war (take your pick, Civil War, WW1, WW2, Vietnam, the Long War (counter terrorism) and today's wars result in more invisible mental trauma compared to earlier wars which resulted in greater physical trauma. Unemployment and drug addiction and homelessness are highly linked. It is very saddening. Hey, as this is a surfing forum, are you getting more satisfying surf in Texas or California? |
| 299116 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 43 | Qustom | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-04T19:23:27-0500 | nedsurf said: San Diego now has the highest cost of living in the US. https://fox5sandiego.com/news/busin...ss/san-diego-takes-top-spot-in-ranking-of-most-expensive-places-to-live-in-u-s/ And a terrible legislature - https://sjvsun.com/california/california-facing-58-billion-deficit-over-next-two-years/ Click to expand... I was about to click like but it just seemed wrong. Hard to believe we're ahead (behind?) places like 'Frisco, NYC, etc. |
| 299117 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 44 | Darth Waver | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-04T19:27:31-0500 | I Qustom said: I was about to click like but it just seemed wrong. Hard to believe we're ahead (behind?) places like 'Frisco, NYC, etc. Click to expand... I think the "Sunshine Tax" comes into play there. SD salaries being lower than other high cost areas. |
| 299123 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 45 | dingdong | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-04T20:20:40-0500 | I pretty much grew up here in CA, and love it, beautiful weather, diverse cultures and foods readily available, surf everywhere when it's breaking, and yes biggest negative is probably housing, I'm not sure how any newly married couple with regular jobs can buy a house here, and I think alot of the pricing is propped up by foreign investments and buyers scooping up homes here, but hopefully the market adjusts once prices get too absurd |
| 299145 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 46 | cheyneskeezer | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T00:15:48-0500 | Taxs are out of control I work a lot 3200-3400 hours a year. I am uncle sams best friend. Long beach is one of the highest sales tax rates in LA county I believe and what you think of long beach is slowly spreading into the south end near seal. Bums everywhere, trash everywhere and the city land scaping is out of hand. If you wanna play by the rules pay all your taxs and bills it’s damn expensive. I dont know if I could start over here buying a house now. I bought in 2011. I just registered my sons 50cc honda and paid sales tax on it. it’s a 2003 389 bucks out the door to get it up to date 89 dollars more than i paid for it….. a complete scam. i also just worked right on the border i mean in the riverbed separating tj to SD at least 35 haitian immigrants where on our side iphones in hand waiting to be picked up by the border patrol. I asked where they would be taken thru conversation and he said most are given a plane ticket to florida rest are brought into cali…. CA likes to take take take money but not dump it back into what they say they are taking it for. I do just fine here i’d like to think i’d do alot better elsewhere and my dollar would go alot farther but with that said I make about 50 percent more hourly than i would in texas or idaho and work will never be as busy as it is in so cal until u hit the east coast. and i surf everyday i’m not working 7 miles to the beach. I think the only thing that will take us out of CA is if it comes to taking our son out of public school do to the indoctrination. so far we have had good teachers that are just there to teach. But i feel we would home s b a drastic move. also don’t think i’d sell my house rather rent it out. if it wasn’t for the surf 15 mins away fly fishing 3-4 hours away and desert 2 hours away we’d be gone! one last thing i’m seeing is that their answer to affordable living is allowing nice tracks of homes to make their garages into studio apartments. ya all good on paper till ur once nice neighbo… |
| 299146 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 47 | Moustache Lou | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T00:25:20-0500 | Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 299153 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 48 | cheyneskeezer | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T01:16:09-0500 | jrusso7881 said: View attachment 66988 Click to expand... wait till he's the president hahaha |
| 299155 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 49 | Moustache Lou | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T01:17:18-0500 | cheyneskeezer said: wait till he's the president hahaha Click to expand... Not a pleasant thought. And I fear it'll happen, too…….. |
| 299157 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 50 | cheyneskeezer | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T01:20:39-0500 | newsom/hillary bumper stickers coming to a town near you haha |
| 299158 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 51 | Qustom | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T01:40:58-0500 | cheyneskeezer said: wait till he's the president hahaha Click to expand... Apparently he had a pretty stellar appearance going head to head with that Florida guy Whatshisname but I didn't watch. I've got better things to do like posting on Jamboards. |
| 299170 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 52 | txgrinder | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T08:18:36-0500 | Qustom said: I hope posting this doesn't qualify as bringing up "politics" (who knows these days...) but if you haven't seen this series yet it's so spot on for this thread that I just had to let it fly: 6 episodes in total, so if the first one hooks you be prepared to budget a good half hour or so for the rest. Pure comedy gold IMHO. Click to expand... "The masks....inside your own house....with no one else around" LOLOLOLOLOL Thanks for sharing. |
| 299171 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 53 | Darth Waver | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T08:27:50-0500 | txgrinder said: "The masks....inside your own house....with no one else around" LOLOLOLOLOL Thanks for sharing. Click to expand... Haha. The whole thing reminds me of going to a teacher's union meeting. |
| 299172 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 54 | txgrinder | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T08:30:04-0500 | SdSurferguy said: The sad reality: Home prices (rents and sales) are absurd and continuing to skyrocket. Our area has nearly doubled in rent in the last 5 years, and home prices are astronomical and continuing to grow. High mortgage rate rises don't mean anything to buyers paying cash, and the low inventory keeps demand high. Most of our new neighbors are from LA and the Bay Area. I went to a tour/talk at a reputable SD nonprofit org last week and the director said the greatest issue for their organization is lack of affordable housing. All of the flaws they are trying to fix (lack of medical care, elder care, homelessness, drug addiction, food insecurity, immigration etc) always come back to lack of affordable housing. And not much can be done about it. When people leave we know they'll likely never be able to afford to come back. The good reality: If you managed to get in early, or get creative, or push yourself hard enough, you can live in San Diego County. I shared waist/chest high cylinders in a 3/2 with @B2Lose and @glider_boy this morning, and it was nearly empty ( and maybe a bit closed out). I'm eating a California burrito as I type this, and it's 70* today Dec 4th. Click to expand... Well, truth be told, the last 3 years I was there, we were full time RVing in a giant toyhauler through grad school and it was very doable. I rented a house in O'Side before that for a very affordable amount through the 2000s, but divorce did away with that life. Hell, I might do the RV thing again if I wanted to. The family loved it. My daughter and wife often want to go back to it. It was a simpler type of existence, but even RV living became pretty difficult and expensive. I just looked at RV parks in the area. The cheapest one in Vista is $1675 per month out of season and goes to $1875 per month in season. It's just the price you pay for all the other amenities. One also has to move for 24 hours every 6 months and then wash, rinse, repeat. Now we live in your typical 3/2 … |
| 299185 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 55 | icecreamheadache | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T10:50:54-0500 | Taxes are ludicrous. DMV fees are triple what they are in Oregon. It’s illegal to be high. It’s illegal to talk shit to people. It’s illegal to have an unloaded handgun in your truck if the case isn’t locked. It’s illegal to have a certain stock or magazine. It’s illegal to be Brown or Black in a group. Traffic is getting worse every day. There are broken bumpers blocking lanes of traffic and wannabe bikers trying to start fights with people who don’t lose a mirror off their truck on the medianwall to let them lane split. Gavin is a shitbag. Property values are fucked partially because of short term vacation rental pricks. Unless you’re rich, been here a long time or live way inland, you’re likely to live in a much smaller dwelling than elsewhere. Parking is impossible many places. There are fuck all drug treatment centers, fuck all harm reduction shelters and fuck all mental health services. Gas is expensive as fuck. We have more people in prison than any other state in the union. Prison guard unions direct public policy. For all its fake environmental hype, oil and gas exploration and fracking are largely Texas level unregulated. They put dangerous natural gas compressors next to elementary schools and build suburban neighborhoods over nuclear waste dumps. Toxic chemicals are sprayed with impunity as long as there’s warning labels on every little thing. It’s Chinatown all day every day. And there’s no place else I’ll live in this country. LA is one of the top three cities in the world. Once you leave West LA (which is what most people envision when they hear “LA” and also the least representative area) the food gets excellent, the people are hella nice and we have the best punk scene and book scene and goth scene in the world (Bandung might beat us for punk but we’d be a close second anyway.) there is stellar theatre and indie film and lucha libre. Wages are three times what they are where I come from. You can surf every single day. There are plenty of empty waves if you know where to look. There aren’t… |
| 299191 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 56 | Qustom | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T11:26:14-0500 | Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 299192 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 57 | Qustom | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T11:26:58-0500 | txgrinder said: "The masks....inside your own house....with no one else around" LOLOLOLOLOL Thanks for sharing. Click to expand... There are five more episodes, fun for the whole family! |
| 299193 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 58 | Doggyfizzle | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T11:47:20-0500 | Lifetime CA resident here - unlike some, was not fortunate to grow up near the beach, but managed to find my way to SB for college and now Ventura for good. I remember visiting my aunt as a kid, whose husband was a firefighter at the Seal Beach Navy Base, and getting to watch him surf and thinking to how awesome it was to surf like 10 minutes from their apartment. The CA coast in Southern California is crowded, and I don’t see any possibility of that changing in my lifetime. Too much money chasing too little land. I will say, between Hueneme and up to Cayucos are pretty incredible places to live with surf, and besides the SB area, moderately more affordable than other SoCal beach areas. One thing I love about ventura is our beaches - mostly uncrowded (by my grumpy standards anyways), and easy to access. For raising kids, the beach is incredible - surf, boogyboarding, and not a fucking iPad in sight! I used to travel a lot for work, and spent a lot of time in TX (Houston, Midland area, and work breaks out to amazing spots near Corpus and Padre) - before I took my current job 15 years ago I really went back and forth about a really amazing job in Houston, but I decided to try out my current job and stayed in Ventura. I really enjoyed my time in Texas and am sure I would have had a great life there, but wouldn’t have had nearly the opportunity for easy coastal recreation like I’ve got now in Ventura. I will also say, at least in the Ventura area, there seems to be lot of economic opportunity in nearly all sectors of employments. I know good friends who make a great living as welders, electricians, computer programmers, accountants, carpenters, crop scientists, marine surveyors, you name it. In terms of cost of living, I found that with the property taxes in TX, the initial cost of a house in CA would be higher, but with the capped increased in property taxes from Prop 13, my cost of living would be lower about 10 years into our mortgage vs the place we almost bought in TX. In terms of po… |
| 299194 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 59 | Moustache Lou | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T11:52:17-0500 | @Doggyfizzle : "…but with the capped increased in property taxes from Prop 13…" Until they finally managed to repeal it… and yes, I know they say it 'would only apply to commercial properties' or some such… but the way California taxes tend to go, seems like a pretty slippery slope to me……. |
| 299195 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 60 | miscreant | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T11:55:41-0500 | We need to remember that periodically there are amazing deals on used surfboards... like this one: Surfboards Hawaii |
| 299201 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 61 | 4492 | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T13:11:11-0500 | Ventura is terrible, no one come here. |
| 299202 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 62 | PeakMaster | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T13:21:17-0500 | My best buddy lives in SD County. He's a retired SDFD Captain. I speak to him on the phone couple of three times a month or so. |
| 299210 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 63 | LogFeliz | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T14:52:03-0500 | ventucky nobody said: Ventura is terrible, no one come here. Click to expand... Sorry, we're all coming tomorrow and staying through at least Friday |
| 299213 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 64 | CantDecide | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T15:03:47-0500 | icecreamheadache said: Taxes are ludicrous. DMV fees are triple what they are in Oregon. It's illegal to be high. It's illegal to talk shit to people. It's illegal to have an unloaded handgun in your truck if the case isn't locked. It's illegal to have a certain stock or magazine. It's illegal to be Brown or Black in a group. Traffic is getting worse every day. There are broken bumpers blocking lanes of traffic and wannabe bikers trying to start fights with people who don't lose a mirror off their truck on the medianwall to let them lane split. Gavin is a shitbag. Property values are fucked partially because of short term vacation rental pricks. Unless you're rich, been here a long time or live way inland, you're likely to live in a much smaller dwelling than elsewhere. Parking is impossible many places. There are fuck all drug treatment centers, fuck all harm reduction shelters and fuck all mental health services. Gas is expensive as fuck. We have more people in prison than any other state in the union. Prison guard unions direct public policy. For all its fake environmental hype, oil and gas exploration and fracking are largely Texas level unregulated. They put dangerous natural gas compressors next to elementary schools and build suburban neighborhoods over nuclear waste dumps. Toxic chemicals are sprayed with impunity as long as there's warning labels on every little thing. It's Chinatown all day every day. And there's no place else I'll live in this country. LA is one of the top three cities in the world. Once you leave West LA (which is what most people envision when they hear "LA" and also the least representative area) the food gets excellent, the people are hella nice and we have the best punk scene and book scene and goth scene in the world (Bandung might beat us for punk but we'd be a close second anyway.) there is stellar theatre and indie film and lucha libre. Wages are three times what they are where I come from. You can surf every single day. There are plenty of empty w… |
| 299223 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 65 | Qustom | Dec 5, 2023 | 2023-12-05T16:21:40-0500 | jrusso7881 said: @Doggyfizzle : "…but with the capped increased in property taxes from Prop 13…" Until they finally managed to repeal it… and yes, I know they say it 'would only apply to commercial properties' or some such… but the way California taxes tend to go, seems like a pretty slippery slope to me……. Click to expand... Just another way to move long time Californians out of the state so that new money can take over. |
| 299243 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 66 | vel525 | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-05T21:35:16-0500 | I’ve been in CA since 2014, of which five years were in west LA and the rest in SF or Bay Area. I generally like CA, but the cost of living in the Bay Area is just ridiculous. And I prefer the warmer SoCal weather. I’ve lived in a lot of random places including NC, DC, Boston, Chicago, NY and for me CA is still a decent option. Not too many states with as much coast for surfing haha. Would love to live abroad for a few years while the kids are young, but I would like to settle down in SoCal somewhere. And I work in SF and it definitely has gone downhill since the pandemic…was walking to lunch and saw the biggest poo (pretty sure it was from a human) I have seen in a very long time just chillin on the sidewalk. |
| 299264 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 67 | txgrinder | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-06T07:43:45-0500 | ventucky nobody said: Ventura is terrible, no one come here. Click to expand... Sorry bro, already have a house rented and my posse of 18 body boarders coming next week. I just couldn't say no. I can't WAIT to make it a better place for everyone to enjoy. See ya soon!! LOLOLOLOL Hopefully you know I jest. |
| 299265 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 68 | txgrinder | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-06T08:02:01-0500 | icecreamheadache said: Taxes are ludicrous. DMV fees are triple what they are in Oregon. It's illegal to be high. It's illegal to talk shit to people. It's illegal to have an unloaded handgun in your truck if the case isn't locked. It's illegal to have a certain stock or magazine. It's illegal to be Brown or Black in a group. Traffic is getting worse every day. There are broken bumpers blocking lanes of traffic and wannabe bikers trying to start fights with people who don't lose a mirror off their truck on the medianwall to let them lane split. Gavin is a shitbag. Property values are fucked partially because of short term vacation rental pricks. Unless you're rich, been here a long time or live way inland, you're likely to live in a much smaller dwelling than elsewhere. Parking is impossible many places. There are fuck all drug treatment centers, fuck all harm reduction shelters and fuck all mental health services. Gas is expensive as fuck. We have more people in prison than any other state in the union. Prison guard unions direct public policy. For all its fake environmental hype, oil and gas exploration and fracking are largely Texas level unregulated. They put dangerous natural gas compressors next to elementary schools and build suburban neighborhoods over nuclear waste dumps. Toxic chemicals are sprayed with impunity as long as there's warning labels on every little thing. It's Chinatown all day every day. 1) And there's no place else I'll live in this country . LA is one of the top three cities in the world. Once you leave West LA (which is what most people envision when they hear "LA" and also the least representative area) the food gets excellent, the people are hella nice and we have the best punk scene and book scene and goth scene in the world (Bandung might beat us for punk but we'd be a close second anyway.) there is stellar theatre and indie film and lucha libre. Wages are three times what they are where I come from. You can surf every single day. There are plenty of em… |
| 299280 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 69 | icecreamheadache | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-06T11:04:33-0500 | txgrinder said: Sorry bro, already have a house rented and my posse of 18 body boarders coming next week. I just couldn't say no. I can't WAIT to make it a better place for everyone to enjoy. See ya soon!! LOLOLOLOL Hopefully you know I jest. Click to expand... I think the bodyboarders all picked up e-foils on their way up… |
| 299290 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 70 | mightyrime | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-06T11:37:31-0500 | I am happy in Oceanside, Ca. I have lived all over the country and worked in every state except Hawaii and Alaska. Everywhere has it trade offs. Since there is a bit of a Texas theme here i will say my wife is a Texan born and raised in Temple / Waco so i spend a lot of time there as well so i feel i have good perspective. Yes California is too expensive across all fields. I estimate it would cost my family roughly $40k less a year for the same standard of living in Texas ( house, schools, gas, food, taxes, day care...etc..) But for me currently the extra $40k is worth it. We have lucked out and found a good neighborhood with good people, a great elementary school, and 20 minutes from either excellent surfing or desert hiking and mountain bike trails. I also have my elderly mother near by which is amazing for my kids and They have built a strong relationship. And the weather is amazing as all know. I lived in the midwest for a while and those winters i never want to go back to. Its all about personal situations i think. If i did not surf, made less money ( i am not rich nor have a trust fund... I never went to college and built debt and i have worked my whole life and earned what i have), did not have family here.... i would leave the California coast for sure. Like said everyone is unique and California is worth the cost to me currently. |
| 299292 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 71 | Planktom | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-06T11:45:32-0500 | Completely tangential, but how easy/hard is it for you mainland crew to move to any of the Hawaiian Islands? Does the same principle apply as it would to any other state? Or is moving there a thing that only those with plenty of cash may consider? Asking as an ignorant UK citizen who used to be able to travel and work across mainland Europe :-( |
| 299294 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 72 | mightyrime | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-06T11:52:52-0500 | There are no special rules except maybe for animals. Its actually not all that much more to freight over there vs hiring a moving truck company locally... maybe 35% more or so. Real estate in Hawaii is a whole other thing... but getting your stuff there is not too tough. |
| 299300 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 73 | miscreant | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-06T12:46:44-0500 | Hawaii you say! Well, if you are thinking about a move to Hawaii, why not kit yourself out with this amazing piece of surf nostalgia: Surfboards Hawaii for sale |
| 299301 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 74 | Planktom | Dec 6, 2023 | 2023-12-06T13:06:35-0500 | I set 'em up, you knock' em down! |
| 299380 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 75 | txgrinder | Dec 7, 2023 | 2023-12-07T08:01:04-0500 | icecreamheadache said: I think the bodyboarders all picked up e-foils on their way up… Click to expand... hahahahahahah, I am crying....literally laughing AND crying |
| 299382 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 76 | txgrinder | Dec 7, 2023 | 2023-12-07T08:22:28-0500 | mightyrime said: I am happy in Oceanside, Ca. I have lived all over the country and worked in every state except Hawaii and Alaska. Everywhere has it trade offs. Since there is a bit of a Texas theme here i will say my wife is a Texan born and raised in Temple / Waco so i spend a lot of time there as well so i feel i have good perspective. Yes California is too expensive across all fields. I estimate it would cost my family roughly $40k less a year for the same standard of living in Texas ( house, schools, gas, food, taxes, day care...etc..) But for me currently the extra $40k is worth it. We have lucked out and found a good neighborhood with good people, a great elementary school, and 20 minutes from either excellent surfing or desert hiking and mountain bike trails. I also have my elderly mother near by which is amazing for my kids and They have built a strong relationship. And the weather is amazing as all know. I lived in the midwest for a while and those winters i never want to go back to. Its all about personal situations i think. If i did not surf, made less money ( i am not rich nor have a trust fund... I never went to college and built debt and i have worked my whole life and earned what i have), did not have family here.... i would leave the California coast for sure. Like said everyone is unique and California is worth the cost to me currently. Click to expand... Yup, O'Side is my home. For me,it's the best location on the planet. I would either come back there or go to Ventura and bring my foil so @icecreamheadache and I can become fast friends LOL....but in all seriousness, money isn't a concern for me as much as being left alone to do my own thing and candidly, since politics have been brought up in jest, so I can keep my current firearm situation without all the BS hassle. I use them to make a part of my living and my connections out there may still allow that. I have some research to do if i am to consider it....and … |
| 299405 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 77 | West81 | Dec 7, 2023 | 2023-12-07T12:36:58-0500 | Doing your own thing also involves guns right? |
| 299408 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 78 | Planktom | Dec 7, 2023 | 2023-12-07T12:41:27-0500 | txgrinder said: I use them to make a part of my living and my connections out there may still allow that. Click to expand... You're not the guy who pulled Buttons in, are you? Dog the Bounty Hunter, or whatever he's called? |
| 299409 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 79 | PeakMaster | Dec 7, 2023 | 2023-12-07T12:48:28-0500 | West81 said: Doing your own thing also involves guns right? Click to expand... It surely can. |
| 299419 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 80 | backtail | Dec 7, 2023 | 2023-12-07T13:59:40-0500 | txgrinder said: , wondering if it's really as bad in CA as you "hear" or if its just state of mind for those who "escaped"? Click to expand... What have you heard? aside from the OC family like in regards to what? |
| 299498 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 81 | txgrinder | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T07:16:22-0500 | West81 said: Doing your own thing also involves guns right? Click to expand... Yes, primarily instructing and some competitive events. |
| 299499 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 82 | txgrinder | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T07:17:23-0500 | Planktom said: You're not the guy who pulled Buttons in, are you? Dog the Bounty Hunter, or whatever he's called? Click to expand... You caught me. |
| 299500 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 83 | Planktom | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T07:37:44-0500 | No-one catches Dog!! |
| 299501 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 84 | txgrinder | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T07:40:08-0500 | backtail said: What have you heard? aside from the OC family like in regards to what? Click to expand... I have been told that getting your LTC is extremely difficult and expensive...like equivalent to getting a suppressor. My friend who lives in Vista said it took him a year and about $1700 when it was all said and done. The other girl I know who lives in LA said she had a very similar process to go through. Also, apart from what I hear through the grapevine, I do know the laws are pretty strict, as in you can't have a loaded weapon in your vehicle and it has to be disassembled and in a lock box. Someone in this thread mentioned that very thing. I won't get into discussions about disagreements because we all believe what we do and I am not here to change minds or have someone try to change mine. I will say that with the current state of the country and our cities, the last thing I would do if I have to be out in public is to be caught unarmed. In Texas, you can drive around with your rifle in your front seat if you desire. I would hate to have that freedom taken away. I usually avoid crowded and populated areas, but sometimes you have to get fuel or food or whatever and it requires one to be in populated areas where you can feel the unrest. Remember the weekend a few weeks ago when Hamas declared Jihad globally? You could feel the tension around my city. There were 2 stabbings just outside of grocery stores....in nice areas. Experience tells me that it is not a place to be and not be prepared to handle your self. All of that being said, before someone just thinks I am paranoid...I am not. But the realization hit me that I am the stopping point between me and my family. After the pandemic and the shit I witnessed in the DFW area with what people can do to each other, I quickly saw that playtime was over and the world changed overnight. The first line of defense is situational awareness and avoiding places to begin with, but I am also not a hermit and like being out… |
| 299502 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 85 | txgrinder | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T07:42:20-0500 | Planktom said: No-one catches Dog!! Click to expand... Is that guy even still alive? He might surf. I think he lives in Hawaii or something? Bro, mullets of the world unite..... |
| 299504 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 86 | Planktom | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T07:50:34-0500 | I feel that he's at a Motel somewhere, floating on the pool, eyes closed, nursing a Teqqy sunrise haha |
| 299505 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 87 | West81 | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T08:04:10-0500 | txgrinder said: I have been told that getting your LTC is extremely difficult and expensive...like equivalent to getting a suppressor. My friend who lives in Vista said it took him a year and about $1700 when it was all said and done. The other girl I know who lives in LA said she had a very similar process to go through. Also, apart from what I hear through the grapevine, I do know the laws are pretty strict, as in you can't have a loaded weapon in your vehicle and it has to be disassembled and in a lock box. Someone in this thread mentioned that very thing. I won't get into discussions about disagreements because we all believe what we do and I am not here to change minds or have someone try to change mine. I will say that with the current state of the country and our cities, the last thing I would do if I have to be out in public is to be caught unarmed. In Texas, you can drive around with your rifle in your front seat if you desire. I would hate to have that freedom taken away. I usually avoid crowded and populated areas, but sometimes you have to get fuel or food or whatever and it requires one to be in populated areas where you can feel the unrest. Remember the weekend a few weeks ago when Hamas declared Jihad globally? You could feel the tension around my city. There were 2 stabbings just outside of grocery stores....in nice areas. Experience tells me that it is not a place to be and not be prepared to handle your self. All of that being said, before someone just thinks I am paranoid...I am not. But the realization hit me that I am the stopping point between me and my family. After the pandemic and the shit I witnessed in the DFW area with what people can do to each other, I quickly saw that playtime was over and the world changed overnight. The first line of defense is situational awareness and avoiding places to begin with, but I am also not a hermit and like being out with my family, so I have a huge responsibility to be the first line of defense for them. Yeah, I can trai… |
| 299506 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 88 | txgrinder | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T08:05:24-0500 | West81 said: Not a lot of guns available or allowed here in The Netherlands, but I hear ya on protecting your family. I have some legal "weaponry" but other than that just working on being a vicious bastard, my body as a weapon and all that Click to expand... Yes sir, good on you. I do the same.....can't just be a gun fighter. Being well-rounded is paramount. Appreciate the feedback. |
| 299509 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 89 | West81 | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T08:21:28-0500 | Without being overly dramatic, Covid definitely opened my eyes on this (very thin layer of) civilization we all like to pretend to have. On the topic of housing. We have the same issues here. Old fishing communities now find their small fishermans houses standing on primo real-estate land. Slowly but surely they are being pushed out to be replaced by million dollar apartments. We were fortunate enough to buy in 2012 when prices were at absolute rock-bottom. I don't even have a mortgage anymore. |
| 299510 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 90 | txgrinder | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T08:32:36-0500 | West81 said: Without being overly dramatic, Covid definitely opened my eyes on this (very thin layer of) civilization we all like to pretend to have. On the topic of housing. We have the same issues here. Old fishing communities now find their small fishermans houses standing on primo real-estate land. Slowly but surely they are being pushed out to be replaced by million dollar apartments. We were fortunate enough to buy in 2012 when prices were at absolute rock-bottom. I don't even have a mortgage anymore. Click to expand... Not dramatic at all, just reality. Good on you man. I love hearing about others successes. |
| 299516 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 91 | PeakMaster | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T10:01:06-0500 | Wa txgrinder said: Yes sir, good on you. I do the same.....can't just be a gun fighter. Being well-rounded is paramount. Appreciate the feedback. Click to expand... Walk softly and carry a compact 9...or a .38 snubnose. |
| 299517 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 92 | backtail | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T10:09:35-0500 | Ah ok got it, so concern is generally crime. Not so much gas prices etc. I personally would feel safer in coastal SD county w/o gun than DFW with gun. Haven't spent time in Dallas, just a little in houston and austin for work...lived a year in phoenix. Also I feel like in oceanside there has to be so many military dudes lurking close by at any moment that probably paid that $1700 but yeah man you gotta do whats best for you and the fam. goodluck and hope it leads you back to surf....any texan surfers ever route out a gun compartment on their longboard? try burning me again! lol. |
| 299522 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 93 | Surfertom | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T11:07:15-0500 | I thought this was a surfing forum. I'm Tom and surf longboards . . . (Glad this hasn't digressed to political/social commentary.) |
| 299530 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 94 | SdSurferguy | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T12:20:36-0500 | Some links to compare your area in TX vs Oceanside and/or SD. Of course the petty theft/property crime is likely underreported in CA as the hassle of filing a report is often futile. https://www.crimemapping.com/ https://www.sandiego.gov/sites/default/files/crime-rates1950-2022.pdf https://www.oceansidepolice.com/resources/crime-statistics/-folder-569 Keeping it on topic surf was 1.5x overhead yesterday and head high+ this morning. Offshore with dolphins frolicking. I did witness some downright criminal drop-ins |
| 299554 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 95 | Bruce Fowler | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T15:50:25-0500 | "My wife and I were reminiscing this morning, wondering if it's really as bad in CA as you "hear" or if its just state of mind for those who "escaped"? In all honesty, I'd live there again, even in the current climate that seems rampant. Anyone mind giving some input from their perspective?" California is a remarkable state, spanning the equivalent of many states along the eastern seaboard. From North to South to West to East: Beaches, Valleys, Lakes & River Deltas, Deserts, Snow Capped Mountains and everything in between. Home prices vary depending upon what you want and where you want to live. One of the greatest attractions is the Mediterranean climate which resembles Italy Greece & the South of France. I live in the Santa Ynez Valley, and when people see photographs I've taken in the springtime, they ask me when I was in Tuscany, and I tell them, "this is near my house in Solvang". I was born in Santa Barbara, and for me, a Mediterranean climate offers the best weather in the world: a climate distinguished by warm, wet winters under prevailing westerly winds and calm, hot, dry summers, as is characteristic of the Mediterranean region and parts of California, Chile, South Africa, and southwestern Australia. |
| 299557 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 96 | nedsurf | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T16:26:26-0500 | txgrinder said: I have been told that getting your LTC is extremely difficult and expensive...like equivalent to getting a suppressor. My friend who lives in Vista said it took him a year and about $1700 when it was all said and done. All of that being said, before someone just thinks I am paranoid...I am not. But the realization hit me that I am the stopping point between me and my family. After the pandemic and the shit I witnessed in the DFW area with what people can do to each other, I quickly saw that playtime was over and the world changed overnight. Click to expand... If that $1700 didn't include two handguns, ammo, and training your friend got taken. When previous sheriff resigned and the Supreme Court made the New York decision the justification went away. The new Sheriff has greatly speeded up the process in San Diego County. As to the world changing, covid was an unveiling, but for me an even larger shock is the tone and vehemence in the country after Oct 7 that has even an old pretty street-wise guy shaking his head with concern. Totally blindsided and greatly saddened by the anti semitism within. Thin veil of civilization for sure. |
| 299558 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 97 | nedsurf | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T16:30:51-0500 | Bruce Fowler said: "My wife and I were reminiscing this morning, wondering if it's really as bad in CA as you "hear" or if its just state of mind for those who "escaped"? In all honesty, I'd live there again, even in the current climate that seems rampant. Anyone mind giving some input from their perspective?" California is a remarkable state, spanning the equivalent of many states along the eastern seaboard. From North to South to West to East: Beaches, Valleys, Lakes & River Deltas, Deserts, Snow Capped Mountains and everything in between. Home prices vary depending upon what you want and where you want to live. One of the greatest attractions is the Mediterranean climate which resembles Italy Greece & the South of France. I live in the Santa Ynez Valley, and when people see photographs I've taken in the springtime, they ask me when I was in Tuscany, and I tell them, "this is near my house in Solvang". I was born in Santa Barbara, and for me, a Mediterranean climate offers the best weather in the world. Click to expand... My folks lived in Santa Maria, leaving back when the wine industry was just getting started, beautiful weather for sure |
| 299559 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 98 | Bruce Fowler | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T16:56:10-0500 | nedsurf said: My folks lived in Santa Maria, leaving back when the wine industry was just getting started, beautiful weather for sure Click to expand... Santa Maria is now larger than Santa Barbara. SM attracted businesses like machine shops & other industrial buinesses that SB turned their noses up at preferring everything be a tourist attraction. SB is wonderfu place with it's "American Riviera" and southern exposure, but it is economically less diverse and more expensive. You can still buy a nice home in SM for one half to a third of what you would pay in SB. Santa Maria appears to be a well planned community with wide streets, ample parking everywhere, and conveniently located shopping centers and auto dealers. A variety of beaches are within close proximity as well as schools, colleges and medical facilities. They basically have everything SB has but cheaper, with more space around it and less attitude. |
| 299561 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 99 | West81 | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T17:24:02-0500 | Mediterranean is hot as fuck during summer |
| 299563 | 17382 | California--Current State of Living? | 100 | Moustache Lou | Dec 8, 2023 | 2023-12-08T17:27:39-0500 | nedsurf said: If that $1700 didn't include two handguns, ammo, and training your friend got taken. When previous sheriff resigned and the Supreme Court made the New York decision the justification went away. The new Sheriff has greatly speeded up the process in San Diego County. As to the world changing, covid was an unveiling, but for me an even larger shock is the tone and vehemence in the country after Oct 7 that has even an old pretty street-wise guy shaking his head with concern. Totally blindsided and greatly saddened by the anti semitism within. Thin veil of civilization for sure. Click to expand... I'll have to look into getting my CCW. |
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