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| 233388 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 1 | heavymetalshop | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T19:28:37-0500 | POST TITLE UPDATED Howdy, I'm looking at ordering a custom christenson long phish. I'm stuck between the 6'8-7'8 range. Unsure exactly which size to pull the trigger on. 6'11, 7'3 are of most interest to me. I'd surf it around locally but also would bring as a travel board with a longboard. Shot in the dark but does anybody happen to have a long phish in the LA area in that range? I would to do a temp trade for a couple of sessions so I can get a feel. LMK if you're down. Also, if you just have general thoughts on the shape/size. I would love to hear it. |
| 233391 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 2 | mightyrime | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T19:42:55-0500 | my buddy has the 6'11' he lives in venice. I have no idea if he would let you ride it... he is a very nice guy though so it might work out. send me a DM with your cell # and i will hook you guys up. I know he likes it but has said he wished it was just a bit larger as it needs some wave to work in the 6'11" |
| 233394 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 3 | mightyrime | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T19:45:57-0500 | also check this video and this guys you tube.. he has a few christenson fishes. And he surfs them well |
| 233395 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 4 | Bummer Dude | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T19:46:12-0500 | I picked up a 6'8" Larry Mabile Quad Fish earlier this year. My regular fish is 6'2" so I was skeptical that the extra 6 inches would bring all that much different to the party. But man do I love it. Great compromise of glide and maneuverability, can surf it off my back foot or take a step forward and trim a bit. Very good paddler, I use it often for higher tide beach breaks. Not sure how it compares to the CC long phish - you can check out the outline here: https://mollusksurfshop.com/collections/surfboard-archive/products/68-mabile-quad-fish-140521 If you're ever up in Ventura, Im happy to lend it to you for a sesh. |
| 233399 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 5 | heavymetalshop | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T19:53:05-0500 | Bummer Dude said: I picked up a 6'8" Larry Mabile Quad Fish earlier this year. My regular fish is 6'2" so I was skeptical that the extra 6 inches would bring all that much different to the party. But man do I love it. Great compromise of glide and maneuverability, can surf it off my back foot or take a step forward and trim a bit. Very good paddler, I use it often for higher tide beach breaks. Not sure how it compares to the CC long phish - you can check out the outline here: https://mollusksurfshop.com/collections/surfboard-archive/products/68-mabile-quad-fish-140521 If you're ever up in Ventura, Im happy to lend it to you for a sesh. Click to expand... Damn, sick one! You scored. |
| 233400 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 6 | heavymetalshop | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T19:55:55-0500 | mightyrime said: also check this video and this guys you tube.. he has a few christenson fishes. And he surfs them well Click to expand... hehe, yeah. I've watched these. Helped zero in on long phish vs. nautilus |
| 233427 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 7 | SMUKES | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T23:21:21-0500 | I found having my back foot planted over, or just very slightly ahead of the fins on long fishes puts way too much board out front if they're close to 7'. Board slaps and hops and in general that front 8 to 10 inches just never gets wet. My favored length for these is 6'3 to 6'5. I'm 6'2. These are not good turners from center. |
| 233428 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 8 | heavymetalshop | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T23:22:57-0500 | SMUKES said: I found having my back foot planted over, or just very slightly ahead of the fins on long fishes puts way too much board out front if they're close to 7'. Board slaps and hops and in general that front 8 to 10 inches just never gets wet. My favored length for these is 6'3 to 6'5. I'm 6'2. These are not good turners from center. Click to expand... Valid! |
| 233429 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 9 | bobsacamano | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-11T23:26:22-0500 | SMUKES said: I found having my back foot planted over, or just very slightly ahead of the fins on long fishes puts way too much board out front if they're close to 7'. Board slaps and hops and in general that front 8 to 10 inches just never gets wet. My favored length for these is 6'3 to 6'5. I'm 6'2. These are not good turners from center. Click to expand... I have a 6'10 Long Phish and agree with this. Love the board, though. I have shorter boards that turn better, but it's still so fun on a fast, clean wave. Also has quite a large range. |
| 233441 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 10 | Syncro | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T02:20:00-0500 | SMUKES said: I found having my back foot planted over, or just very slightly ahead of the fins on long fishes puts way too much board out front if they're close to 7'. Board slaps and hops and in general that front 8 to 10 inches just never gets wet. My favored length for these is 6'3 to 6'5. I'm 6'2. These are not good turners from center. Click to expand... Road my buddies 9'11 DR, and lets talk about some slap and having board out in front of you lmao |
| 233442 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 11 | Fishface | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T03:04:52-0500 | SMUKES said: I found having my back foot planted over, or just very slightly ahead of the fins on long fishes puts way too much board out front if they're close to 7'. Board slaps and hops and in general that front 8 to 10 inches just never gets wet. My favored length for these is 6'3 to 6'5. I'm 6'2. These are not good turners from center. Click to expand... yep... i bought a long fish (7'ish) to "try" it... exactly my experience. i sold it after about 6 sessions. in the fish world a "long fish" would be several inches longer than your height. a proper fish would be a several inches shorter than you... |
| 233443 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 12 | SMUKES | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T03:07:03-0500 | Highline trim from just ahead of center with feet so close together your ankles are almost touching is what these are for. I got a burner at a bigger day at Malibu one time and I'd swear the bottom of the j.hall wasn't touching the water. Best feeling in surfing for me. |
| 233444 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 13 | Syncro | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T03:52:27-0500 | I know its not a long fish, but this looks like his nautilus model and I've heard nothing but good things about it. Theres a guy at my local break who shreds one... will this board make you shred like him probably not but its worth a try! https://ventura.craigslist.org/spo/d/ventura-christenson-610-surfboard/7427370579.html |
| 233493 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 14 | skazat | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T17:07:48-0500 | Syncro said: I know its not a long fish, but this looks like his nautilus model and I've heard nothing but good things about it. Theres a guy at my local break who shreds one... will this board make you shred like him probably not but its worth a try! https://ventura.craigslist.org/spo/d/ventura-christenson-610-surfboard/7427370579.html Click to expand... I keep seeing that board and am so tempted by it! I picked up a custom 6'10 Lane Splitter a few months back but I need a decent sized day to get a feel for it. Hard to justify another board in the same range when I havent been able to ride the one I have. |
| 233494 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 15 | Shadownboxn7 | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T17:13:00-0500 | I have a 6’6” nautilus. Though it can ride chest high days, it prefers big OH days with a lot of clean face. I had a long fish, fun board, but it seemed like a one trick pony. The nautilus will do most things you tell it to do, under the appropriate conditions. |
| 233495 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 16 | heavymetalshop | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T17:16:21-0500 | This has been super helpful. I do enjoy being able to turn from the middle of the board and moving around a bit when in trim. Not sure a longer fish is for me based on what i've read but a hull fish might be more in tune with my styles. I'll just keep enjoying what I got, for now. |
| 233496 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 17 | SMUKES | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T17:27:18-0500 | What in God's name is a hull fish |
| 233527 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 18 | Syncro | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T20:21:26-0500 | SMUKES said: What in God's name is a hull fish Click to expand... Maybe he meant Hall Fish lmao.... as in JH |
| 233532 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 19 | Jc Nelson | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T20:49:20-0500 | SMUKES said: What in God's name is a hull fish Click to expand... try to keep up http://www.jacquesberiaucustomsurfboards.com/fishplacement-hull-jb.html |
| 233539 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 20 | SMUKES | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T21:13:59-0500 | Hmmm. But fish are planers and hulls are displacers... Jesus never mind. |
| 233556 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 21 | kvg | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T22:31:55-0500 | I have a 6'6" Long Phish. It's a really fun board but is really sticky/tracky with keels on it. I've been using the Step Hi-Speed Paddles and that's helped it loosen up a bit. It's fun on long, ripping waves. Not so great at beach breaks. I have a 6'4" Nautilus on order as my "lazy" shortboard. Will report back once it shows up. |
| 233565 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 22 | mightyrime | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-13T00:10:56-0500 | Since this has turned into a longer fish thread i will give my two cents. I have a custom Terry Senate Quad fish that is 7'2" x 21.75" x 2.75". Its my go to midlength board when Oceanside is what i would call medium. 4' ish waves. I have not experienced the front end skittering with this board. What i like is how easy it is to surf. Does not need quite as steep / powerful of a wave as my 7' egg. Its fast and pretty loose.. but it does feel like too much board. It feels too floaty when i try to dig in the rail as it has that sort of traditional boxy fish rail. So like above poster said i sort of just trim it down the line fast and do gentle turns. It basically does not have the loose skatey turning aspects that what i think a fish should have. seems like 7' is sort of a no mans land. If i did it again and i just wanted trim speed i would probably go like 8' twin a bit narrower with foiled rails. If i was more of a ripper and had the skill set to really throw around those skatey fish turns i would guess like mid 6' range. |
| 233571 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 23 | Planktom | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-13T02:15:38-0500 | +1 for the JH Piseas with high aspect twin fins.... Small, medium, big(ish), draining, mushy, lined up or sectiony... Those things just lap it all up. Friend has a Vouch Vish, which he raves about. Lots of template curve, no trackiness, fast. |
| 233810 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 24 | OX 45 | Jan 14, 2022 | 2022-01-14T17:36:14-0500 | https://nobodysurf.com/stpnk-long-fish-66ride-by-kenta-ishikawa/ |
| 233815 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 25 | heavymetalshop | Jan 14, 2022 | 2022-01-14T18:18:29-0500 | OX 45 said: https://nobodysurf.com/stpnk-long-fish-66ride-by-kenta-ishikawa/ Click to expand... supreme content ! really enjoy these videos. everything about them. |
| 233816 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 26 | CantDecide | Jan 14, 2022 | 2022-01-14T18:20:07-0500 | Planktom said: +1 for the JH Piseas with high aspect twin fins.... Small, medium, big(ish), draining, mushy, lined up or sectiony... Those things just lap it all up. Friend has a Vouch Vish, which he raves about. Lots of template curve, no trackiness, fast. Click to expand... I rode a 6'8" x 21" x 2 3/4" Piseas for about 9 months straight in 2019 all over San Diego. It worked in basically everything. I'm 5'11" and 165 lbs for reference. I loved that board. Also, if you want some more footage of surfing a long fish, check out Hydrodynamica on Instagram (its Richard Kenvin). Lots of footage of him surfing a 6'9" Frye long fish and 7'3" long fish from Burch. |
| 233817 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 27 | CantDecide | Jan 14, 2022 | 2022-01-14T18:22:52-0500 | OX 45 said: https://nobodysurf.com/stpnk-long-fish-66ride-by-kenta-ishikawa/ Click to expand... I want those fins! |
| 234772 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 28 | bobsacamano | Jan 23, 2022 | 2022-01-23T14:20:20-0500 | Put some big upright Alkali fins in the last couple of surfs in my 6'10 and it's been feeling really good. Loosened it up. I'm usually a big 'use the fins made for the boards' guy and have only surfed it with the Captain CC keels, but I'm glad I tried these out. Made me think one a few inches shorter, with a little more curve in the outline and upright fins would be money. |
| 234782 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 29 | DJR | Jan 23, 2022 | 2022-01-23T15:50:50-0500 | SMUKES said: What in God's name is a hull fish Click to expand... They're out there and they work… hybrid of hybrids |
| 234783 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 30 | DJR | Jan 23, 2022 | 2022-01-23T15:52:37-0500 | 8’ fish Simmons all day however not sure one considers these long fish though Josh Hall says there are long fish with thruster setup At any rate board is terrific |
| 234805 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 31 | Big D | Jan 23, 2022 | 2022-01-23T18:42:22-0500 | SMUKES said: I found having my back foot planted over, or just very slightly ahead of the fins on long fishes puts way too much board out front if they're close to 7'. Board slaps and hops and in general that front 8 to 10 inches just never gets wet. My favored length for these is 6'3 to 6'5. I'm 6'2. These are not good turners from center. Click to expand... I've never noticed the slap/hops. Pic is myself on a 7'6" mitsven quad long fish at O-Side Jetties. One of THE funnest boards at Swamis on a head high day when it's running all the way to the sand. I usually found my back foot about a foot past the fins. Board turned on a dime. Now, to be fair I'm 6'3" 240 so I have a bit extra size/weight to push the board around and bury the shit out of the rail. Funnest "long fish" for me are typically 6'8" quads but this 7'6" was a wonderful board. |
| 234828 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 32 | skurp | Jan 24, 2022 | 2022-01-23T23:20:03-0500 | 6’10 *21*3 “Rotten Fish” from Michah Beutz. I’m 6ft/ 215 lbs… in my quiver, this is basically my shortboard for slower conditions. Paddles about its size (not great/not terrible) but once I’m on it, it Holds speed really well and the high aspect fins are really responsive. Not sure if it’s the way I surf it or how it’s designed but my back foot rarely seems to get within 6in of the fins and I can put it just about anywhere I want in the wave. Shines in slopier stuff. Doesn’t need to be clean necessarily, it has enough wiggle to get in and around crumbly sections. The faster and steeper it is, the harder it is to surf |
| 234834 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 33 | Couch | Jan 24, 2022 | 2022-01-24T00:58:07-0500 | Great thread question about a nice alternative midlength to an egg. Several posters nailed it with the length vs what the board will want to do for you. In my experience having owned and ridden a whole bunch, if I am looking for a better wave board that lets me sit deeper, paddles better and turns harder when I need it to- then 6'10 x 22 1/4 x 2 7/8 works wonders at 200 lbs and 6'. If you surf slow open-faced waves a bunch then I like to go 7'8 x 22 1/2 x 3 1/8 as you have to compete with folks on longer boards, weigh A LOT less than you may and know the lineup. I try not to pull this one off the rack if it is firing 5-6' walls (like Rincon) because for me at least, it feels like a lot of board when trying to cut back hard, take off late or tear the top off. Then again Torren Martyn or Trevor Gordon surf anything well. Now that leaves a bunch of room in between I know, but these quad, twin or tri fin longer fish require a bit of a learning curve as they feel so much different than a short fish, midlength egg or 2 +1. The rail line, bottom mojo and placement of foam has a ton to do with sinking your rail but any reputable shaper can certainly dial that in for you. Good luck in the quest, you should really give one a go and give it a chance to warm up to you. Couch |
| 234905 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 34 | SMUKES | Jan 24, 2022 | 2022-01-24T17:10:14-0500 | Big D said: I've never noticed the slap/hops. Pic is myself on a 7'6" mitsven quad long fish at O-Side Jetties. One of THE funnest boards at Swamis on a head high day when it's running all the way to the sand. I usually found my back foot about a foot past the fins. Board turned on a dime. Now, to be fair I'm 6'3" 240 so I have a bit extra size/weight to push the board around and bury the shit out of the rail. Funnest "long fish" for me are typically 6'8" quads but this 7'6" was a wonderful board. Click to expand... Yep, I see RK and others like you doing just fine. My problem is my back-footed bias from all the single pins and 80's thrusters. It's also why I bet I'd struggle on a snowboard. Simmons style shit is also not in my wheelhouse. |
| 275810 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 35 | VBhatteras | Mar 8, 2023 | 2023-03-07T22:16:12-0500 | kvg said: I have a 6'6" Long Phish. It's a really fun board but is really sticky/tracky with keels on it. I've been using the Step Hi-Speed Paddles and that's helped it loosen up a bit. It's fun on long, ripping waves. Not so great at beach breaks. I have a 6'4" Nautilus on order as my "lazy" shortboard. Will report back once it shows up. Click to expand... How do u like ur Nautilus? |
| 294102 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 36 | jvri | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T07:24:16-0400 | kvg said: I have a 6'6" Long Phish. It's a really fun board but is really sticky/tracky with keels on it. I've been using the Step Hi-Speed Paddles and that's helped it loosen up a bit. It's fun on long, ripping waves. Not so great at beach breaks. I have a 6'4" Nautilus on order as my "lazy" shortboard. Will report back once it shows up. Click to expand... Reviving this thread with a focus on fins. I picked up a 7'2 Christenson Long Phish and recently got it out into some juicy waves. It was a blast but I agree with @kvg on the keel fin report. Massive amounts of hold but very sticky, currently running CxCx Keels from Capt Fin. Curious what other fins folks have ridden in theirs. |
| 294117 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 37 | Planktom | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T10:09:31-0400 | https://www.instagram.com/p/CxnO56VyLwi/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== |
| 294132 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 38 | DJR | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T11:41:30-0400 | jvri said: Reviving this thread with a focus on fins. I picked up a 7'2 Christenson Long Phish and recently got it out into some juicy waves. It was a blast but I agree with @kvg on the keel fin report. Massive amounts of hold but very sticky, currently running CxCx Keels from Capt Fin. Curious what other fins folks have ridden in theirs. Click to expand... My buddy had a JH long fish but was using glass on twins as opposed to keel. Board worked great, much more versatile Same size as yours |
| 294138 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 39 | Syncro | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T12:24:58-0400 | Long fish with keels I find the stickiness too perhaps because of the longer fish typically have more parallel rails and you need less fin because of the more rail. ? |
| 294139 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 40 | jvri | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T12:34:19-0400 | Sounds like I need to find some used futures twin fins for sale….if I only knew a place… |
| 294140 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 41 | jvri | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T12:35:50-0400 | DJR said: My buddy had a JH long fish but was using glass on twins as opposed to keel. Board worked great, much more versatile Same size as yours Click to expand... I had a JH long fish with high aspect twins and it was great, forgot about that, thanks! |
| 294142 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 42 | Havoc | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T12:42:25-0400 | have a 6'9 stamps long line tkf that has fins more forward and lots of vee out the tail that surfs pretty hp for what it is. one of the better boars in my quiver. sd style long fish seem to have placement way back |
| 294143 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 43 | CantDecide | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T12:54:47-0400 | I have two long fishes, 6’10” and 7’3”. Both glass on keels with 8” bases. Yes, they are sticky so the turns are long and drawn out but that’s what I’d expect from a long fish and the feel I am looking for so it doesn’t bother me. Tons of projection out of bottom turns so that’s the trade off for me. Personally, I love them. |
| 294144 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 44 | CantDecide | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T12:58:56-0400 | DJR said: My buddy had a JH long fish but was using glass on twins as opposed to keel. Board worked great, much more versatile Same size as yours Click to expand... I'd guess that was a piseas, which is essentially a fish Simmons with high aspect twins and a beak nose as opposed to a long fish. I mention that not to be an insufferable esoteric ass but because they do surf very differently. The concave and roughly 2" narrower tail block on the piseas really loosens that board up compared to a traditional long fish. |
| 294152 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 45 | CosmicCruiser | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T14:42:07-0400 | I have a 6'7 Piseas with glass on high aspect twins. Love it. No stickiness at all and so much drive. I've always wanted to try out a traditional long fish though. Interested to hear what @zeekfeldo has to say about his new Burch long fish, do you feel those keels keep it sticky and draw out the turns or do the sidecuts keep it lively? |
| 294167 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 46 | DJR | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T16:32:18-0400 | CantDecide said: I'd guess that was a piseas, which is essentially a fish Simmons with high aspect twins and a beak nose as opposed to a long fish. I mention that not to be an insufferable esoteric ass but because they do surf very differently. The concave and roughly 2" narrower tail block on the piseas really loosens that board up compared to a traditional long fish. Click to expand... View attachment 97EC379E-7FEC-480D-9BA0-73610928B3D1.jpeg |
| 294168 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 47 | DJR | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T16:33:26-0400 | DJR said: View attachment 64688 Click to expand... But I love you my friend |
| 294169 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 48 | DJR | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T16:34:59-0400 | CantDecide said: I'd guess that was a piseas, which is essentially a fish Simmons with high aspect twins and a beak nose as opposed to a long fish. I mention that not to be an insufferable esoteric ass but because they do surf very differently. The concave and roughly 2" narrower tail block on the piseas really loosens that board up compared to a traditional long fish. Click to expand... What about the modified keels of MOTE? |
| 294171 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 49 | Planktom | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T16:50:20-0400 | Piseas is a dangerous board to own.. They can literally abolish 3 boards out of your quiver in a fell swoop. |
| 294177 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 50 | CantDecide | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T17:20:11-0400 | DJR said: What about the modified keels of MOTE? Click to expand... I have never ridden those keels or a MOTE (though the massive look fun). I've just ridden a few long fishes, modified long fishes and boards in the long fish length range that happen to have swallow tails. |
| 294181 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 51 | CantDecide | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T17:36:37-0400 | CosmicCruiser said: Interested to hear what @zeekfeldo has to say about his new Burch long fish, do you feel those keels keep it sticky and draw out the turns or do the sidecuts keep it lively? Click to expand... The long squits are much more loose than a traditional long fish of the same length, even with the keels. But, in my experience, the tail block is also 1.5"+ narrower and the board is 1"+ narrower than a traditional long fish, both which loosen up the ride, as do the side cuts. |
| 294182 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 52 | CosmicCruiser | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T17:45:00-0400 | CantDecide said: The long squits are much more loose than a traditional long fish of the same length, even with the keels. But, in my experience, the tail block is also 1.5"+ narrower and the board is 1"+ narrower than a traditional long fish, both which loosen up the ride, as do the side cuts. Click to expand... Can you compare it to a Piseas in a similar length? |
| 294184 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 53 | jvri | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T17:57:43-0400 | CantDecide said: I'd guess that was a piseas, which is essentially a fish Simmons with high aspect twins and a beak nose as opposed to a long fish. I mention that not to be an insufferable esoteric ass but because they do surf very differently. The concave and roughly 2" narrower tail block on the piseas really loosens that board up compared to a traditional long fish. Click to expand... Ah yes my JH was def a Piseas, under @j_laucks toes now. I did love the looseness and playfulness of that board but the CC is a different beast, it wants to be in bigger surf. And it screams in a straight line. I've been looking at some that blends the two. Furrow's high aspect twins might fit the bill… https://www.trueames.com/products/furrow-twin-futures-compatible |
| 294188 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 54 | CantDecide | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T18:22:52-0400 | CosmicCruiser said: Can you compare it to a Piseas in a similar length? Click to expand... I think the piseas is looser but not as drivey. The keels on the Burch are 8" base by 4 3/4" height so lots of drive. But the narrow tail block and side cut and narrow width loosen the Burch up, I just think a piseas is looser if that's the feel you are going for. |
| 294200 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 55 | CantDecide | Oct 8, 2023 | 2023-10-08T19:52:10-0400 | jvri said: Ah yes my JH was def a Piseas, under @j_laucks toes now. I did love the looseness and playfulness of that board but the CC is a different beast, it wants to be in bigger surf. And it screams in a straight line. I've been looking at some that blends the two. Furrow's high aspect twins might fit the bill… https://www.trueames.com/products/furrow-twin-futures-compatible Click to expand... Those are great all around fins. |
| 294244 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 56 | feldo | Oct 9, 2023 | 2023-10-09T10:38:48-0400 | CosmicCruiser said: I have a 6'7 Piseas with glass on high aspect twins. Love it. No stickiness at all and so much drive. I've always wanted to try out a traditional long fish though. Interested to hear what @zeekfeldo has to say about his new Burch long fish, do you feel those keels keep it sticky and draw out the turns or do the sidecuts keep it lively? Click to expand... The side cuts and pulled in tail make it very maneuverable. You can go straight vertical if you want to in the right circumstances. Definitely not sticky! Dimensions on my burch long squit are 6'9 x 20 7/8 x 2 1/4 , 6'1 180 lbs. |
| 294253 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 57 | CantDecide | Oct 9, 2023 | 2023-10-09T11:42:16-0400 | zeekfeldo said: The side cuts and pulled in tail make it very maneuverable. You can go straight vertical if you want to in the right circumstances. Definitely not sticky! Dimensions on my burch long squit are 6'9 x 20 7/8 x 2 1/4 , 6'1 180 lbs. Click to expand... @CosmicCruiser Zeekfeldo's is a (much) more suped up version than mine. His dimension are definitely narrower than a Piseas at the same length (the piseas I surfed a bunch was stock and it was 6'9" x 21 /4" x 2 3/4"). My long squit is more of a take on a traditional San Diego long fish. It's 7'3" x 21.25" x 2.75" with a 10" tail block. I told him I just want to go fast, do fun high lines and do loooong cutbacks. It does that all (even with me as the operator!). So, mine is much more traditional long fish than a high performance-y rocket fish sort of shape. Both sounds fun to me! |
| 294262 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 58 | SeaWater | Oct 9, 2023 | 2023-10-09T12:24:04-0400 | Probably posted before, but here's some traditional long fish surfing, for context. |
| 294266 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 59 | CantDecide | Oct 9, 2023 | 2023-10-09T12:50:57-0400 | Kenvin on his 7'3" Burch Long Squit (he calls it a "Druid Staff"... his IG has a bunch of clips of him surfing it, as well): |
| 294270 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 60 | mightyrime | Oct 9, 2023 | 2023-10-09T13:40:20-0400 | I have been chasing the long fish thing for a while and went through quite a few shapes and sizes until i found the one that worked for me. The magic long fish for me is a mitsven long fish i bought here 6'9"x 21.75"x 2.75" using Christenson keel fins. I am 175lb. It just has the perfect balance for me. I felt some of the other fishes just had too much foam in the front 2/3 of the boards and i always felt like i pushing water instead of planing. Anyways... big thumbs up for the Mitsven long fishes. |
| 294338 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 61 | NCJohn | Oct 10, 2023 | 2023-10-10T09:23:49-0400 | Lots of good info here keep it coming. watching this thread closely in the lead up to the next Burch custom order window... Thinking either a long cuttle or long squit fish |
| 294344 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 62 | CantDecide | Oct 10, 2023 | 2023-10-10T10:35:16-0400 | NCJohn said: Lots of good info here keep it coming. watching this thread closely in the lead up to the next Burch custom order window... Thinking either a long cuttle or long squit fish Click to expand... When I ordered mine I said I'd like a long fish and left the outline up to him. He picked a Squit. When I asked why not a cuttle the response was that while he has made a handful of them he doesn't think they work as well as a long fish bc they are supposed to be grovelers and pocket sitters and he thinks that works best at shorter lengths and not long fish type of lengths. That being said, maybe ask him about stretching out an orange fish or a "late cut fish" like the one at Resin Craft? |
| 294521 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 63 | j_laucks | Oct 12, 2023 | 2023-10-12T13:58:49-0400 | jvri said: Ah yes my JH was def a Piseas, under @j_laucks toes now. I did love the looseness and playfulness of that board but the CC is a different beast, it wants to be in bigger surf. And it screams in a straight line. I've been looking at some that blends the two. Furrow's high aspect twins might fit the bill… https://www.trueames.com/products/furrow-twin-futures-compatible Click to expand... @jvri 's (and others) old board was a 6'10" Piseas. Glasson 101 upright twins. Rails and overall foil were more performance-y. I grabbed it from him to compare and contrast with a 6'8" JH Long Fish with glassed on geppy slant backs I had gotten just before he offered his up - Very different boards in my mind. The Piseas with pulled in tail block, upright twins was better in beachbreak and sectioning waves where maneuverability was key. Also really forgiving and fun backside. The more traditional Long Fish with keels is much more drivey and a straight line rocket on a longer running wave. Pull a cutback to burn off speed out on the shoulder and get back to the pocket and continue. Just my $0.01 as these were only my second and third forays into twin fins. There are probably more experienced twin riders that can offer more nuance. I do remember the first time got the Long Fish to click on a good wave it really opened my mind to the speed and flow of a twin fin! |
| 294572 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 64 | mightyrime | Oct 13, 2023 | 2023-10-12T22:15:50-0400 | Anyone tried the Rainbow Big Quan / Speed dialer? I know someone selling a 7'0 x22" for a crazy good price. |
| 294596 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 65 | NCJohn | Oct 13, 2023 | 2023-10-13T08:38:10-0400 | mightyrime said: Anyone tried the Rainbow Big Quan / Speed dialer? I know someone selling a 7'0 x22" for a crazy good price. Click to expand... I had a 6'6 at one point and loved it - fast and maneuverable |
| 295926 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 66 | knowur | Oct 28, 2023 | 2023-10-28T17:23:54-0400 | Enjoyed this thread. Just ordered a 7’1 Piseas from Josh this morning. A bit wider and a tad bit thicker with that tail block and rocker |
| 296225 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 67 | Billiedog | Oct 31, 2023 | 2023-10-31T16:59:28-0400 | Havoc said: have a 6'9 stamps long line tkf that has fins more forward and lots of vee out the tail that surfs pretty hp for what it is. one of the better boars in my quiver. sd style long fish seem to have placement way back Click to expand... Do you have any pics of your stamps long fish? Thinking of ordering one |
| 296261 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 68 | CosmicCruiser | Nov 1, 2023 | 2023-10-31T23:37:36-0400 | Can anyone on here talk about Skip's long fish? Specifically the 6'9 that he started making in the early 2000s that RK rides. Wondering about bottom contours etc.(Flat? Single concave? V?) We turning down those rails? Also wondering if you were going to try to get a similar board would you go to Miller, Mitsven, Hall, or someone else? |
| 296263 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 69 | shredsickgnar | Nov 1, 2023 | 2023-11-01T00:45:02-0400 | I'll defer to others with more knowledge but I believe Skips Long Fish is like his normal fish just stretched out. Slight belly in the entry, then single concave running through the fins. I have 5'10''s from both Skip and Miller and they are very close. There are slight differences between the two. The Miller has a touch more nose and tail rocker. It also is slightly more foiled and has a deeper single concave. However, I have also seen other Skips that are more foiled than mine and have a deep concave like the Miller. The rails are very similar. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fish from Skip that is closer to my Miller. Both have the refinement of a master shaper and both surf great! I'd say you can buy with confidence from Miller that you'll be getting very very close to what Skip makes. I saw some Mitsven Long Fishes at Birds that looked really good, but I didn't properly fondle them. I think they had single concaves on them. I've read others posts that If you order from Mitsven the only difference between his boards and Skip's is Skip's has less tail rocker, otherwise they are as close as you can get. |
| 296264 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 70 | SdSurferguy | Nov 1, 2023 | 2023-11-01T00:58:33-0400 | . |
| 296265 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 71 | Nubancho | Nov 1, 2023 | 2023-11-01T01:12:56-0400 | Wouldn't mind test driving this one... https://www.facebook.com/groups/sur...oups/surfsalebuytrade/permalink/3366248147009249/?sale_post_id=3366248147009249 |
| 296351 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 72 | Hanger18 | Nov 2, 2023 | 2023-11-01T20:49:36-0400 | CosmicCruiser said: Can anyone on here talk about Skip's long fish? Specifically the 6'9 that he started making in the early 2000s that RK rides. Wondering about bottom contours etc.(Flat? Single concave? V?) We turning down those rails? Also wondering if you were going to try to get a similar board would you go to Miller, Mitsven, Hall, or someone else? Click to expand... In 2003, when skip started making them, they were unknown at that size. Skip made one for him, me, bird, geppy and RK in that first batch. RK loved his. Bird and geppy added wings to theirs to help them turn easier. I never liked mine much. Fast but stiff. I've cut my fins down into slant backs to try and help that issue but short of adding the geppy wings, it's not for me. His longer nozzle model with the Simmons hip goes incredible. But skip still makes long foshes with rave reviews. I just dropped one off to Joe Curren this weekend and it was a beauty. |
| 296352 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 73 | CosmicCruiser | Nov 2, 2023 | 2023-11-01T20:58:14-0400 | Hanger18 said: In 2003, when skip started making them, they were unknown at that size. Skip made one for him, me, bird, geppy and RK in that first batch. RK loved his. Bird and geppy added wings to theirs to help them turn easier. I never liked mine much. Fast but stiff. I've cut my fins down into slant backs to try and help that issue but short of adding the geppy wings, it's not for me. His longer nozzle model with the Simmons hip goes incredible. But skip still makes long foshes with rave reviews. I just dropped one off to Joe Curren this weekend and it was a beauty. Click to expand... Amazing. That board is a beaut. Some rad insight as well. When you say added wings, you're talking about wings on the rail line? I don't know if I've ever seen a keeled fish with wings before. How did that work for them? I was wondering about the nozzle as well in shorter lengths. You only really hear about it 8' and up. |
| 296354 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 74 | SdSurferguy | Nov 2, 2023 | 2023-11-01T21:28:23-0400 | . |
| 296361 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 75 | mightyrime | Nov 2, 2023 | 2023-11-01T22:46:22-0400 | Hanger18 said: In 2003, when skip started making them, they were unknown at that size. Skip made one for him, me, bird, geppy and RK in that first batch. RK loved his. Bird and geppy added wings to theirs to help them turn easier. I never liked mine much. Fast but stiff. I've cut my fins down into slant backs to try and help that issue but short of adding the geppy wings, it's not for me. His longer nozzle model with the Simmons hip goes incredible. But skip still makes long foshes with rave reviews. I just dropped one off to Joe Curren this weekend and it was a beauty. Click to expand... @Hanger18 where do you live? it looks beautiful |
| 296537 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 76 | Havoc | Nov 4, 2023 | 2023-11-04T11:24:20-0400 | Billiedog said: Do you have any pics of your stamps long fish? Thinking of ordering one Click to expand... |
| 296538 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 77 | Havoc | Nov 4, 2023 | 2023-11-04T11:25:28-0400 | rear open of box set at 8.5” from swallow tip. go 8” if running hobie keels. mine is set up for stamps keels futures glass not that nvs crap |
| 296547 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 78 | Havoc | Nov 4, 2023 | 2023-11-04T12:10:20-0400 | wan Hanger18 said: In 2003, when skip started making them, they were unknown at that size. Skip made one for him, me, bird, geppy and RK in that first batch. RK loved his. Bird and geppy added wings to theirs to help them turn easier. I never liked mine much. Fast but stiff. I've cut my fins down into slant backs to try and help that issue but short of adding the geppy wings, it's not for me. His longer nozzle model with the Simmons hip goes incredible. But skip still makes long foshes with rave reviews. I just dropped one off to Joe Curren this weekend and it was a beauty. Click to expand... fins too far back hence the stiffness |
| 296675 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 79 | Hanger18 | Nov 6, 2023 | 2023-11-06T12:13:44-0500 | Since this thread was a good one, thought we'd make a video about Long-fish with Bird on his Instagram. Birds Surf Shed - Long Fish - hope that link works, if not head to the Shed Instagram and give it a look. Cheers. |
| 296677 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 80 | deadhead | Nov 6, 2023 | 2023-11-06T12:32:24-0500 | Hanger18 said: Since this thread was a good one, thought we'd make a video about Long-fish with Bird on his Instagram. Birds Surf Shed - Long Fish - hope that link works, if not head to the Shed Instagram and give it a look. Cheers. Click to expand... Just popped in to share the same link, this is rad! Thanks. |
| 296679 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 81 | deadhead | Nov 6, 2023 | 2023-11-06T12:51:09-0500 | Also, I picked up a 6'7 Josh Hall Piseas earlier this year, and I have to say it is super special. |
| 296686 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 82 | John | Nov 6, 2023 | 2023-11-06T14:24:42-0500 | Hanger18 said: Since this thread was a good one, thought we'd make a video about Long-fish with Bird on his Instagram. Birds Surf Shed - Long Fish - hope that link works, if not head to the Shed Instagram and give it a look. Cheers. Click to expand... Amazing! Thank you! |
| 296689 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 83 | NCJohn | Nov 6, 2023 | 2023-11-06T14:50:53-0500 | Hanger18 said: Since this thread was a good one, thought we'd make a video about Long-fish with Bird on his Instagram. Birds Surf Shed - Long Fish - hope that link works, if not head to the Shed Instagram and give it a look. Cheers. Click to expand... Fantastic makes me want to get my hands on a long fish... |
| 296701 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 84 | Ricksurfin | Nov 6, 2023 | 2023-11-06T16:36:29-0500 | The only long fish I’ve owned was a Deepest Reaches that I didn’t get along with. I’d love to try a Michael Miller or one from another of the quality San Diego board builders. |
| 296717 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 85 | LogFeliz | Nov 6, 2023 | 2023-11-06T17:43:21-0500 | Ricksurfin said: The only long fish I've owned was a Deepest Reaches that I didn't get along with. I'd love to try a Michael Miller or one from another of the quality San Diego board builders. Click to expand... The Megafish is a different beast - the triplane hull provides a different vibe than the San Diego long fishes from guys like Miller, Mitsven, and Christenson. |
| 296727 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 86 | knowur | Nov 7, 2023 | 2023-11-06T19:27:28-0500 | heavymetalshop said: This has been super helpful. I do enjoy being able to turn from the middle of the board and moving around a bit when in trim. Not sure a longer fish is for me based on what i've read but a hull fish might be more in tune with my styles. I'll just keep enjoying what I got, for now. Click to expand... I have a 7'10 Fish Simmons from Josh Hall. Turns both off the tail and from near middle when the drop is steeper/later. Surfed it 3rd point Malibu couple weeks back 3-4ft on some racey-rights and was quite surprised how loose it surfed even at 7'10. Actually inspired me to order a 7'1 Piseas from Josh a few days later. I'd recommend giving one a try if you have a chance, you may be surprised. My 9'0 DR needs feet on the tail for sure though. Even at 9'0 that thing swings when I'm positioned right.✌ |
| 296759 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 87 | Syncro | Nov 7, 2023 | 2023-11-07T08:24:18-0500 | Has anyone ridden the old design of the DR Mega vs the new? I know @personalityprofile has some opinions on the new vs old. |
| 296813 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 88 | personalityprofile | Nov 7, 2023 | 2023-11-07T16:54:57-0500 | Syncro said: Has anyone ridden the old design of the DR Mega vs the new? I know @personalityprofile has some opinions on the new vs old. Click to expand... My old 9'11" is #417, at least 6 years old, and way different than the 11' that I picked up last year (#1163). I'm not sure if a new 9'11" would be as different as my two boards, but I have a feeling it would be closer to the design of the 11' board than my 9'11. The 9'11" feels loose and free and turns easily from the middle while the 11' wants you to set a line and stick to it and takes a considerably more effort to swing. The tail is narrower and the fins are much closer together on the new board. I'm leaning towards selling the 11' fwiw Some pics of both are here: |
| 296819 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 89 | seelegs | Nov 7, 2023 | 2023-11-07T18:42:37-0500 | personalityprofile said: My old 9'11" is #417, at least 6 years old, and way different than the 11' that I picked up last year (#1163). I'm not sure if a new 9'11" would be as different as my two boards, but I have a feeling it would be closer to the design of the 11' board than my 9'11. The 9'11" feels loose and free and turns easily from the middle while the 11' wants you to set a line and stick to it and takes a considerably more effort to swing. The tail is narrower and the fins are much closer together on the new board. I'm leaning towards selling the 11' fwiw Some pics of both are here: Click to expand... Any noticeable differences in the bottom contours and rails? |
| 296823 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 90 | Jc Nelson | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-07T19:56:11-0500 | NCJohn said: Fantastic makes me want to get my hands on a long fish... Click to expand... makes me want to get on the mitsven fish in the video. maybe someday |
| 296825 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 91 | kyle | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-07T20:27:48-0500 | SMUKES said: Yep, I see RK and others like you doing just fine. My problem is my back-footed bias from all the single pins and 80's thrusters. It's also why I bet I'd struggle on a snowboard. Simmons style shit is also not in my wheelhouse. Click to expand... Be kind to yourself... you can do it... |
| 296826 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 92 | kyle | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-07T20:41:35-0500 | Hanger18 said: Since this thread was a good one, thought we'd make a video about Long-fish with Bird on his Instagram. Birds Surf Shed - Long Fish - hope that link works, if not head to the Shed Instagram and give it a look. Cheers. Click to expand... Incredibly cool of you to do this. Glad the message board inspired you. Stoked we get to enjoy the results! |
| 296834 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 93 | personalityprofile | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-07T21:51:17-0500 | seelegs said: Any noticeable differences in the bottom contours and rails? Click to expand... I've attached a few more photos to the album that I hope answer this, but the concave on the 11' is more dramatic than the 9'11", and there's almost an edge to the bottom of the 11'. |
| 296835 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 94 | seabird | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-07T21:53:09-0500 | Theres a 7'0 mitsven long fish with glass on ply's at Birds currently. Ive been absolutely fawning over it for a few weeks |
| 296838 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 95 | Hanger18 | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-07T22:57:26-0500 | This is my far my favorite frye to date. Fish bottom, fish Simmons outline, Christine Caro fins. |
| 296840 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 96 | shredsickgnar | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-07T23:43:41-0500 | Hanger18 said: View attachment 65977 This is my far my favorite frye to date. Fish bottom, fish Simmons outline, Christine Caro fins. Click to expand... Hot damn! |
| 296841 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 97 | He'e Nalu | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-07T23:53:44-0500 | Hanger18 said: View attachment 65977 This is my far my favorite frye to date. Fish bottom, fish Simmons outline, Christine Caro fins. Click to expand... GORGEOUS!!! What size is this? Excuse the lack of knowledge is this considered a Frye Nozzle with a 11" tail block? |
| 296843 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 98 | Hanger18 | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-08T00:51:18-0500 | leftsonly said: GORGEOUS!!! What size is this? Excuse the lack of knowledge is this considered a Frye Nozzle with a 11" tail block? Click to expand... Yes that's a nozzle. 8'4" |
| 296879 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 99 | seelegs | Nov 8, 2023 | 2023-11-08T17:02:01-0500 | Hanger18 said: View attachment 65977 This is my far my favorite frye to date. Fish bottom, fish Simmons outline, Christine Caro fins. Click to expand... Good lawd |
| 296894 | 12089 | Long Fish Thoughts | 100 | DrBill | Nov 9, 2023 | 2023-11-08T20:00:17-0500 | heavymetalshop said: POST TITLE UPDATED Howdy, I'm looking at ordering a custom christenson long phish. I'm stuck between the 6'8-7'8 range. Unsure exactly which size to pull the trigger on. 6'11, 7'3 are of most interest to me. I'd surf it around locally but also would bring as a travel board with a longboard. Shot in the dark but does anybody happen to have a long phish in the LA area in that range? I would to do a temp trade for a couple of sessions so I can get a feel. LMK if you're down. Also, if you just have general thoughts on the shape/size. I would love to hear it. Click to expand... I have a 6'10 Parmenter fish and a 7'6' Josh Hall love them both, the longer is easier to catch wqves and faster |
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