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| 201770 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 1 | 5finFever | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-19T21:11:52-0400 | I have fallen into deep research of the surf mat. I have never personally ridden one, but I am so interested in what they feel like. I am very close to just saying the heck with it and ordering one. Does anyone have any mat experience whether positive or negative? It seems like everything I have read talked about a feeling of glide where one is more connected to the wave itself than stand-up surfing or a boog. |
| 201773 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 2 | LeroyZ | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-19T21:36:45-0400 | Just got back from a mat shesh. I take it out to my local reef breaks and usually catch quite a few fun waves on it. I've yet to hit 4th gear on the mat but that may be because if it's that good, I'll choose stand-up. I'd say it's more like a surfing a hull as far as learning curve goes, lots of technique involved. |
| 201776 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 3 | shadydave | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-19T22:18:43-0400 | [link removed] Here's another thread that may help if you have not seen it. |
| 201778 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 4 | dubhulloh7 | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-19T22:53:23-0400 | 5finFever said: I have fallen into deep research of the surf mat. I have never personally ridden one, but I am so interested in what they feel like. I am very close to just saying the heck with it and ordering one. Does anyone have any mat experience whether positive or negative? It seems like everything I have read talked about a feeling of glide where one is more connected to the wave itself than stand-up surfing or a boog. Click to expand... Don't think too much. Just do it. |
| 201781 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 5 | Justino | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-19T23:44:20-0400 | Agreed...just get one and try it. They are still cheap for a handcrafted item. I haven't ridden mine for awhile, I sort of go through phases with them. That said, I've never had a bummer session on one. |
| 201782 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 6 | Ricksurfin | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T00:34:31-0400 | Loved riding mine, but hated trying to paddle out with it. I only rode it in pretty heavy beach break where surfing wasn’t an option, but it was impossible to duck dive and I was victim to any waves on my way back out after a ride. Ended up selling it, as it was just too much with my bad back. |
| 201785 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 7 | aslbuck | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T02:16:36-0400 | They are a lot of fun. They work great. They are not easy to master though. January memory: |
| 201786 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 8 | Guest | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T03:06:37-0400 | Don't miss this epic thread! [link removed] Especially the ride report from the OP, Icecreamheadache... classic! Well let's see... I got one 11 years ago and it became what I ride 98% of the time since Endlessly rewarding and challenging. I never seem to get it dialed the way you do a surfboard... constant surprises. They seem to have a life of their own. Yes, they glide in a unique way and you feel it through your body in a unique way too. Pretty clumsy and slow to paddle. You're one of the more vulnerable ones out there when it comes to getting out the back. You get twice as thrashed in duck dive situations.... dragged.... If you pull the trigger, try to take your baby steps at a place with a good channel. Mat surfing is Hull-like in that less-is-more, don't-overthink-it is key. It can be whatever you want but IMO it's not about hotdogging, moves, ripping. Very "holistic" surfing. Not for everyone, much as I wish it was... 'cause... it's pure fun, it's ridiculous, it's egoless in a way. Imagine more of "that" in the lineup! Go for it!!!!! |
| 201788 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 9 | Guest | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T03:25:12-0400 | Love the narration! Froggy... |
| 201794 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 10 | 5finFever | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T08:22:32-0400 | aslbuck said: They are a lot of fun. They work great. They are not easy to master though. January memory: Click to expand... What sparked this curiosity was actually seeing this video on Instagram of you hauling absolute ass down the line and holding a perfect trim line! Thank you! |
| 201801 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 11 | XXX | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T12:11:23-0400 | I've got two, they ride differently but both can be a lot of fun, in the right conditions. And it's often a trick getting the amount of inflation right on any given day. Both of mine developed leaks, and I can't find the #%!#! source of the leakage. I've patched hundreds (thousands?) of bicycle tire tubes, so I know the drill. I'd ride them more if I didn't have to go out the back after every third ride, pull the plug and blow it back up. Guaranteed a set will come while I'm floating and puffing. |
| 201808 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 12 | Guest | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T13:42:42-0400 | Niau said: I've got two, they ride differently but both can be a lot of fun, in the right conditions. And it's often a trick getting the amount of inflation right on any given day. Both of mine developed leaks, and I can't find the #%!#! source of the leakage. I've patched hundreds (thousands?) of bicycle tire tubes, so I know the drill. I'd ride them more if I didn't have to go out the back after every third ride, pull the plug and blow it back up. Guaranteed a set will come while I'm floating and puffing. Click to expand... The corner seam welds are the worst stress points. When leaks begin happening you'll see a telltale dark spot lingering after the rest has dried, then dried salt at the leak point. I think that location defies patching; I've tried "caulking" it and it didn't hold. If you find a successful way, let me know! And over time, if you surf it a lot the fabric just gets fatigued- you might get a handful of tiny leaks that seem to kick in all at once. I love a fresh new mat; it's like a brand new wetsuit! |
| 201810 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 13 | Guest | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T13:59:18-0400 | I should add my experience is with Paul's mats. |
| 201814 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 14 | XXX | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T15:18:40-0400 | tuskedbeast said: I should add my experience is with Paul's mats. Click to expand... I've got a 4th Gear Flyer and a Solomonson neumatic |
| 201815 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 15 | 5finFever | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T15:33:42-0400 | Thank you all for the plethora of information and the share of stoke on the mats. If anyone has a used one they are willing to part with in the future, I would love to get one secondhand! Again thank you all for the stoke, yeeew! |
| 201817 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 16 | Guest | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T15:49:53-0400 | 5finFever said: Thank you all for the plethora of information and the share of stoke on the mats. If anyone has a used one they are willing to part with in the future, I would love to get one secondhand! Again thank you all for the stoke, yeeew! Click to expand... You can put a "WTB" notice on the buy/sell section here. They do pop up ( haw haw). Also check Paul's site, he has sales a few times a year. Just like 50 bucks off usually but it's nice to support the mat OG (and just generally excellent human being). Niau, Dale's mats are rare as a "call in" at The Lane! How did you get it? Were you hip to mats early? |
| 201820 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 17 | aslbuck | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T16:01:36-0400 | tuskedbeast said: You can put a "WTB" notice on the buy/sell section here. They do pop up ( haw haw). Also check Paul's site, he has sales a few times a year. Just like 50 bucks off usually but it's nice to support the mat OG (and just generally excellent human being). Niau, Dale's mats are rare as a "call in" at The Lane! How did you get it? Were you hip to mats early? Click to expand... I still have 3-4 old neumátics. May part with one someday |
| 201828 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 18 | XXX | Mar 20, 2021 | 2021-03-20T19:36:57-0400 | tuskedbeast said: You can put a "WTB" notice on the buy/sell section here. They do pop up ( haw haw). Also check Paul's site, he has sales a few times a year. Just like 50 bucks off usually but it's nice to support the mat OG (and just generally excellent human being). Niau, Dale's mats are rare as a "call in" at The Lane! How did you get it? Were you hip to mats early? Click to expand... Dale is a cool guy, lived awhile in a town where I did a lot of surfing. I was able to 'cut in line' when a customer decided to upgrade from his original order. Not sure how I got lucky, but my list of joint operations may qualify me as a charity case. I'll try again to locate the source of the leak in my neumatic, it's kinda crazy making that it doesn't show up, yet loses air rapidly. |
| 201839 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 19 | DanSan | Mar 21, 2021 | 2021-03-20T23:49:01-0400 | As muchas it does appeal to me.. A guy today...was ripping it... |
| 201840 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 20 | michael | Mar 21, 2021 | 2021-03-20T23:50:31-0400 | Somewhat related... how old is PG now? |
| 201843 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 21 | nedsurf | Mar 21, 2021 | 2021-03-21T00:41:10-0400 | aslbuck said: I still have 3-4 old neumátics. May part with one someday Click to expand... you know I'm on that list, right? Let me know when 3/2 will work in your neck of the woods, gotta grab some of those long lines before I'm too old. |
| 201845 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 22 | Guest | Mar 21, 2021 | 2021-03-21T02:39:46-0400 | DanSan said: As muchas it does appeal to me.. A guy today...was ripping it... Click to expand... There's quite a pod of them on the Eastside. Talented ones! |
| 202022 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 23 | Russ | Mar 23, 2021 | 2021-03-23T10:51:17-0400 | I had to look this up ... we just called these floats when I was a kid. We rented them out of our beach wagon when I was a kid. Boogie boards were much more popular, but I think my dad kept the floats in our inventory out of sentimental value. He learned to surf on them as a little kid. We'd leave them in the sun until they swelled up drum hard, then take them out and you could stand on them if you weren't too heavy. The gifts shops all sold cheap knockoffs, but the ones we had were built like tanks. They were some kind of pretty thick canvas material with a yellow rubber coating on the ends. They had a rope around the outside held by stainless grommets. |
| 202034 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 24 | paipodude | Mar 23, 2021 | 2021-03-23T12:17:31-0400 | For starting out you can use a "pop out" mat just like you probably did starting out foot surfing... you didn't start out on an elephant gun nor a hot, thin thruster. This approach will provide the opportunity to learn the basics before spending real coin. Catching and riding waves on a mat is a good deal different than riding a foot board but having wave knowledge already will make the overall learning experience smoother. |
| 202074 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 25 | Guest | Mar 23, 2021 | 2021-03-23T18:17:58-0400 | I hear you but in this case respectfully disagree, Paipo. I personally would rather start on a proper, fully functional mat (or board for that matter). If it clicked I'd be set to start the journey for real, with everything a well-designed craft had to offer. And if it didn't, someone will want it, it has resale value. Like buying an instrument. A cheap one is a bummer that discourages play, a good one is a joy that "beckons you on" (to quote Nancy Sinatra ). |
| 202082 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 26 | paipodude | Mar 23, 2021 | 2021-03-23T18:48:11-0400 | Didn't Greenough start out on a canvas rental mat? He certainly didn't order up a top end Fourth Gear Flyer! Ok, maybe he made his own from canvas and glue or took apart a used rental unit, reglued and stitched and patched it up Respectively speaking of course, of course. Somebody help out the inquirer and sell a good used mat. Don't see many on the used board racks at the neighborhood surf shop. |
| 202102 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 27 | 1@20 | Mar 24, 2021 | 2021-03-23T21:13:49-0400 | I think the reason you dont see useD mats pop up often is because the owners want to keep them. I sure as hell don’t want to sell mine...so much fun. |
| 202105 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 28 | paipodude | Mar 24, 2021 | 2021-03-23T21:36:41-0400 | I guess a legitimate question might be, "What kind of waves, how large, etc. do you want to ride?" and the mat folks can recommend a good mat to start out using. You can also visit the Mat site on Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/groups/matsurfers and they can steer you in the right direction. And the sister site https://www.matsurfers.com/home . The web site lists builders, riding hints, stories, and a lot of other good stuff. |
| 202117 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 29 | Ricksurfin | Mar 24, 2021 | 2021-03-23T23:04:04-0400 | Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 202125 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 30 | Guest | Mar 24, 2021 | 2021-03-24T00:40:00-0400 | No longer bothered by that artifact now that I know it's not random sociopathy |
| 202168 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 31 | 4491 | Mar 24, 2021 | 2021-03-24T12:41:26-0400 | i finally pulled the trigger on a 4th gear flyer and took it out for the first time this morning....my god does it fly! 2-3 foot and lumpy and the smile on my face was just out of control. there's definitely a learning curve (maybe half of my rides i managed to get onto the face and down the line) that i'm stoked to navigate. after one session i'd say i'm hooked. is it going to replace my surfboards? no. is it going to be fun as hell on small / crowded days in the summer and can live in the back of my truck for spontaneity? absolutely. |
| 202363 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 32 | takedown | Mar 26, 2021 | 2021-03-25T20:22:04-0400 | Awesome @Skusty . I had the same reaction my first time out. It was on a big, really windy, junky day. The surfers were getting tossed around, peaks were all over the place and I caught one 8 foot bomb and couldn't stop laughing as I bounced down the face and navigated down the line. |
| 207008 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 33 | michael | May 11, 2021 | 2021-05-11T18:20:34-0400 | Getting tired of pulling up to see choppy knee high shore break and having nothing to do. Ordered a surf mat from PG. Surf mat people, is this a viable option for knee high choppy shore pound? |
| 207011 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 34 | XXX | May 11, 2021 | 2021-05-11T18:40:38-0400 | 'a viable option for knee high choppy shore pound?' More knowledgeable folks will likely weigh in, but I'll give my dos centavos. Chop is no problem, but any time I take my mat into conditions that require rapid acceleration from the take-off I struggle. Maybe I need bigger flippers or a different technique. If it's over knee high then the drop will give you a quick squirt, but if you're in a shore pound you may not have time to turn that into a worthwhile ride. I recently started carrying a boogie board with me and, though it's rarely my first choice, it's a more versatile option. The PE versions are totally adequate and affordable. |
| 207013 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 35 | Nalu | May 11, 2021 | 2021-05-11T19:06:04-0400 | I always have a KRYPT K5 surf mat around, just in case the conditions aren't ideal for surfing. With a pair of DaFin, that mat has served me well over the years. Gets your stoke level to 100% Depending on where you ride it, not having a leash means you're in for a nice swim if you lose it, especially if it's windy… Image processing. Refresh page to view Also, check this guy's surf mat ride out! https://www.instagram.com/reel/CIowjdIHRFR/ |
| 207014 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 36 | paipodude | May 11, 2021 | 2021-05-11T19:08:55-0400 | Nalu said: I always have a KRYPT K5 surf mat around, just in case the conditions aren't ideal for surfing. With a pair of DaFin, that mat has served me well over the years. Gets your stoke level to 100% Depending on where you ride it, not having a leash means you're in for a nice swim if you lose it, especially if it's windy… View attachment 30428 Also, check this guy's surf mat ride out! https://www.instagram.com/reel/CIowjdIHRFR/ Click to expand... A friend of mine is working on a surf leash mat solution. Will keep you posted. |
| 207015 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 37 | XXX | May 11, 2021 | 2021-05-11T19:11:31-0400 | paipodude said: A friend of mine is working on a surf leash mat solution. Will keep you posted. Click to expand... Velcro wetsuit. |
| 207135 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 38 | aslbuck | May 13, 2021 | 2021-05-12T23:26:50-0400 | michael said: Getting tired of pulling up to see choppy knee high shore break and having nothing to do. Ordered a surf mat from PG. Surf mat people, is this a viable option for knee high choppy shore pound? Click to expand... I prefer a mat in more size of a wave. The chop isn't a problem, mats can find a strong line in most conditions. |
| 207259 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 39 | WesCantDress | May 14, 2021 | 2021-05-13T23:41:05-0400 | aslbuck said: They are a lot of fun. They work great. They are not easy to master though. January memory: Click to expand... Killer Ride! |
| 207271 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 40 | glidewaves | May 14, 2021 | 2021-05-14T04:10:41-0400 | michael said: Getting tired of pulling up to see choppy knee high shore break and having nothing to do. Ordered a surf mat from PG. Surf mat people, is this a viable option for knee high choppy shore pound? Click to expand... I surf almost exclusively in the early am. During the season daytime is for family/beach time. That's when the mat comes in especially on better days. Agree that it's ok in chop but it's not ok under 3'. |
| 207272 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 41 | jory | May 14, 2021 | 2021-05-14T05:57:49-0400 | glidewaves said: I surf almost exclusively in the early am. During the season daytime is for family/beach time. That's when the mat comes in especially on better days. Agree that it's ok in chop but it's not ok under 3'. Click to expand... Image processing. Refresh page to view Paipo is worth considering. Works in knee high, easier learning curve than a mat and much easier to paddle out if theres lots of white water / short period waves |
| 207273 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 42 | 4491 | May 14, 2021 | 2021-05-14T08:31:54-0400 | jory said: View attachment 30539 Paipo is worth considering. Works in knee high, easier learning curve than a mat and much easier to paddle out if theres lots of white water / short period waves Click to expand... i've been loving my mat but definitely got it with the idea that it would be my small wave summer rider. while i'm finding that it does need a bit more oomph to the wave to really get it rolling i am absolutely loving it. i might need to pick up a paipo for the summer though its all good and fun as long as its wet and salty (and preferably sunny) |
| 207278 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 43 | jory | May 14, 2021 | 2021-05-14T10:20:23-0400 | Skusty said: i've been loving my mat but definitely got it with the idea that it would be my small wave summer rider. while i'm finding that it does need a bit more oomph to the wave to really get it rolling i am absolutely loving it. i might need to pick up a paipo for the summer though its all good and fun as long as its wet and salty (and preferably sunny) Click to expand... I've got a 4th gear flyer but I haven't used it for ages. Should really give it another chance. I only ever tried it on small days and struggled to get into waves plus we often have short period wind swell and it was hard to swim it out back. Probably user error I'm sure. had that Paipo ( or belly board if you're English ) for a couple of years. Super easy to swim under waves and will catch stuff that's too small for a log even. It's super fun on a dumpy shore break wave. You feel like you're flying at Mach speed and it's great for pulling into close out shore break barrels. this isn't me ( & they're quality waves ) but you get the idea! https://www.instagram.com/p/CNzOTN3nLgO/?igshid=ap8so7mkpbwo |
| 208001 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 44 | michael | May 21, 2021 | 2021-05-21T18:53:11-0400 | Image processing. Refresh page to view What the hell was that Waaaaay more fun on a chest high chop slop day than I anticipated ! Thanks folks for turning me on to this |
| 208005 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 45 | XXX | May 21, 2021 | 2021-05-21T19:46:07-0400 | michael said: View attachment 30725 What the hell was that Waaaaay more fun on a chest high chop slop day than I anticipated ! Thanks folks for turning me on to this Click to expand... How do you like those yuccas? Chest high slop was made for mats. |
| 208006 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 46 | michael | May 21, 2021 | 2021-05-21T19:52:26-0400 | Niau said: How do you like those yuccas? Chest high slop was made for mats. Click to expand... I have no frame of reference but I got into the waves and my ankles, while sore, do not hurt or chafe. Did the job I'd say |
| 209114 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 47 | longboardkook | Jun 3, 2021 | 2021-06-03T00:58:52-0400 | Made a paipo this weekend for the river waves here in Metro Denver. Image processing. Refresh page to view Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 209126 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 48 | Justino | Jun 3, 2021 | 2021-06-03T09:58:02-0400 | michael said: View attachment 30725 What the hell was that Waaaaay more fun on a chest high chop slop day than I anticipated ! Thanks folks for turning me on to this Click to expand... Correct fins! Yuccas rule. Try the different flex levels! |
| 209130 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 49 | longboardkook | Jun 3, 2021 | 2021-06-03T10:40:30-0400 | Justino said: Correct fins! Yuccas rule. Try the different flex levels! Click to expand... I have a set of green Yuccas that I use to river surf stationary waves on my 4th Gear Flyer mat. I ended up with XXL to go over my 6mm booties. One day will get a smaller pair of Yuccas to hit the ocean elnatural on my surfmat.... (edit- pic of me matsurfing w/ Yuccas on "Bingo Wave" in Golden, Colorado just up river from the Coors brewery) Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 209150 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 50 | XXX | Jun 3, 2021 | 2021-06-03T14:11:29-0400 | longboardkook said: Made a paipo this weekend for the river waves here in Metro Denver. View attachment 31094 View attachment 31095 Click to expand... Promises to be a singular fluid-dynamic experience |
| 209162 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 51 | longboardkook | Jun 3, 2021 | 2021-06-03T15:01:04-0400 | Surfing rivers in Colorado is a singular fluid-dynamic experience (aka landlocked surfer doing landlocked surfing, hahaha) |
| 209164 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 52 | XXX | Jun 3, 2021 | 2021-06-03T15:18:09-0400 | longboardkook said: Surfing rivers in Colorado is a singular fluid-dynamic experience (aka landlocked surfer doing landlocked surfing, hahaha) Click to expand... High altitude snow melt non-cyclical roil riding |
| 209165 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 53 | longboardkook | Jun 3, 2021 | 2021-06-03T15:20:33-0400 | Niau said: High altitude snow melt non-cyclical roil riding Click to expand... aka the snow be melting fast this times of year and there's waves in the rivers to be had.... |
| 217260 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 54 | XXX | Aug 19, 2021 | 2021-08-19T09:06:08-0400 | |
| 217280 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 55 | longboardkook | Aug 19, 2021 | 2021-08-19T12:46:01-0400 | Niau said: Click to expand... So sick fast!!! |
| 217744 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 56 | nedsurf | Aug 24, 2021 | 2021-08-23T20:01:10-0400 | Good weekend watching the World Bodysurfing Championships at Oceanside this weekend, caught up with some old friends. When going out today ran into a couple and their boy with a boogie and a tandem boogie. Dad and the boy catching waves on that big boogie was fun. No pictures, but maybe a family fun idea for some of you. |
| 217795 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 57 | PeakMaster | Aug 24, 2021 | 2021-08-24T11:43:55-0400 | longboardkook said: So sick fast!!! Click to expand... He was a longtime Jammer here for years. |
| 218177 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 58 | davey | Aug 27, 2021 | 2021-08-27T03:20:28-0400 | PeakMaster said: He was a longtime Jammer here for years. Click to expand... And a really nice guy, hey Peak? |
| 218183 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 59 | PeakMaster | Aug 27, 2021 | 2021-08-27T07:26:42-0400 | davey said: And a really nice guy, hey Peak? Click to expand... I think so. Accomplished surfer from NJ. |
| 218379 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 60 | aslbuck | Aug 29, 2021 | 2021-08-28T22:01:41-0400 | PeakMaster said: I think so. Accomplished surfer from NJ. Click to expand... Hola @davey and @PeakMaster those two waves were from December I think. Shot by Ryan from Log Rap. First one got a lot of views on Ryan's log rap IG feed, think well over million views. I always felt the second wave was a better wave though. Regardless, his sharing the footage was generous and it is fun to see such a simple, yet tough, approach to wave riding get respect. |
| 218434 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 61 | PeakMaster | Aug 29, 2021 | 2021-08-29T16:08:39-0400 | aslbuck said: Hola @davey and @PeakMaster those two waves were from December I think. Shot by Ryan from Log Rap. First one got a lot of views on Ryan's log rap IG feed, think well over million views. I always felt the second wave was a better wave though. Regardless, his sharing the footage was generous and it is fun to see such a simple, yet tough, approach to wave riding get respect. Click to expand... Almost broke the sound barrier on that wave. |
| 218436 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 62 | XXX | Aug 29, 2021 | 2021-08-29T16:20:43-0400 | |
| 218444 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 63 | longboardkook | Aug 29, 2021 | 2021-08-29T17:28:11-0400 | Niau said: Click to expand... This is the best explanation of, about, and how to matsurf! |
| 218455 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 64 | nedsurf | Aug 30, 2021 | 2021-08-29T22:04:12-0400 | longboardkook said: This is the best explanation of, about, and how to matsurf! Click to expand... Uh, ok... |
| 220420 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 65 | skazat | Sep 17, 2021 | 2021-09-17T19:51:22-0400 | Thought this was worth the share and figured this would be a good spot to do it. I was scrubbing through some surfline rewind from this morning and saw what I thought at first was a UFO or dolphin taking advantage of a semi empty line up. Closer inspection showed it was someone on a mat going Mach 5. In all seriousness Ive always heard that mats are fast but Ive never seen one accelerate like that before, it looked like he had a motor on it. |
| 220422 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 66 | XXX | Sep 18, 2021 | 2021-09-17T20:32:02-0400 | skazat said: Thought this was worth the share and figured this would be a good spot to do it. I was scrubbing through some surfline rewind from this morning and saw what I thought at first was a UFO or dolphin taking advantage of a semi empty line up. Closer inspection showed it was someone on a mat going Mach 5. In all seriousness Ive always heard that mats are fast but Ive never seen one accelerate like that before, it looked like he had a motor on it. Click to expand... Wow. Accomplished and courageous. There's this, a fundraiser for the builder who's having a very tough time with medical bills: Custom Surfmat Mel Thoman Auction https://ebay.us/pVTnMo |
| 220458 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 67 | nedsurf | Sep 18, 2021 | 2021-09-18T09:35:40-0400 | skazat said: Thought this was worth the share and figured this would be a good spot to do it. I was scrubbing through some surfline rewind from this morning and saw what I thought at first was a UFO or dolphin taking advantage of a semi empty line up. Closer inspection showed it was someone on a mat going Mach 5. In all seriousness Ive always heard that mats are fast but Ive never seen one accelerate like that before, it looked like he had a motor on it. Click to expand... according to my source this is a hydrofoil bodyboard, not a mat. Hoping to get a picture to share. |
| 220466 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 68 | Budthedog | Sep 18, 2021 | 2021-09-18T11:09:27-0400 | nedsurf said: according to my source this is a hydrofoil bodyboard, not a mat. Hoping to get a picture to share. Click to expand... It doesn't look like it moves through the water like a hydrofoil, the way it side slips, turn radius, and I never see him "hovering." Plus for some reason, I think a hydrofoil would get murdered at Malibu. Let us know what you find out, I'm def curious |
| 220467 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 69 | Sbbcc | Sep 18, 2021 | 2021-09-18T11:12:36-0400 | skazat said: Thought this was worth the share and figured this would be a good spot to do it. I was scrubbing through some surfline rewind from this morning and saw what I thought at first was a UFO or dolphin taking advantage of a semi empty line up. Closer inspection showed it was someone on a mat going Mach 5. In all seriousness Ive always heard that mats are fast but Ive never seen one accelerate like that before, it looked like he had a motor on it. Click to expand... Doesn't look like a mat to me either |
| 220479 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 70 | skazat | Sep 18, 2021 | 2021-09-18T14:15:57-0400 | nedsurf said: according to my source this is a hydrofoil bodyboard, not a mat. Hoping to get a picture to share. Click to expand... went back to look at more footage of him and its hard to tell but it does look like he has these brief moments of hovering. Makes sense as to how hes going so fast around those sections. |
| 220921 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 71 | nedsurf | Sep 22, 2021 | 2021-09-22T10:45:15-0400 | Not much here but had south side all to myself yesterday Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 224653 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 72 | aslbuck | Oct 26, 2021 | 2021-10-25T20:44:15-0400 | A video from last week shot by my friend Sam Schaefer. Good example of several different waves and different ways to find speed and different lines of choice when riding a mat. Manipulating the rail is the secret to mat riding. |
| 231361 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 73 | michael | Dec 26, 2021 | 2021-12-26T09:33:33-0500 | cold water mat people, how much of an upsizing in swim fins do you account for winter matting in wetsuit boots (5mm / 7mm) |
| 231364 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 74 | longboardkook | Dec 26, 2021 | 2021-12-26T10:07:15-0500 | michael said: cold water mat people, how much of an upsizing in swim fins do you account for winter matting in wetsuit boots (5mm / 7mm) Click to expand... XXL Yucca ultra soft fins to go over my size 9 3mm to 7mm booties for my street shoe size of 9 1/2 to 10. Then again I river surf my surfmat on standing waves here in Colorado when the snow melts and we get a rush of water for a few months. Also my booties are usually the dive version with a larger profile and thicker soles for rocks in the river (especially when I am river surfing my ocean boards). Those dive booties have toe caps and a tab thing on the back the booties to hold the fins on as a bonus. (See link to some O'Niells). Regular ocean thick booties are a bit smaller so maybe an XL Yucca fin would work in my case. You might need to try multiple sizes and return the ones that are the wrong size. Dive Booties by O'Niell |
| 231366 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 75 | XXX | Dec 26, 2021 | 2021-12-26T10:18:32-0500 | What I'd love to see is a flipper dedicated bootie/fin sock. I wear the 3mm O'Neill fin socks year round, but I have a pair of polypro sock liners that I wear underneath that also makes the wetsuit go on and off easier. They may help a little with the cold, hard to tell. I also reinforce the heel by gluing on a patch of something tough so that it doesn't wear out during the small amount of walking that's unavoidable. Going up in fin size means going for a larger blade which I find awkward. Aren't there enough cold water flipper wearing surfers to justify some manufacturer coming up with a thicker/warmer fin sock? How hard could it be? |
| 231368 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 76 | paipodude | Dec 26, 2021 | 2021-12-26T11:38:36-0500 | I don't ride the cold water much anymore... maybe if I take a trip again to the PNW Oregon area... nonetheless, one can not recommend sizes without knowing what size swim fin is currently used. Secondly and most importantly, one has to find a swim fin that fits your foot & toe profile. That is the starting point. Then, move up one size and see how it goes (take our intended set of fin socks with you). Now, for a couple of examples: my (older) Vipers would not upsize to accommodate cold water fin socks because the rigid foot pocket would not proportionately increase (i.e., width and depth) with the foot pocket length. This is a known and acknowledged design flaw. On the other hand, my DaFin's wider and more supple foot pocket upsized very well for me. In everyday use I wear 2mm fin socks and can actually go to 4mm without upsizing my swim fins. Layering fin socks. I might wear two or three layers of fin socks in cold water. Booties simply don't fit in the swim fins I have tried in the past. One layer used in cold water are this Ti-lined (mine are from NRS). NRS also makes several good fin socks of varying thicknesses. A NRS favorite of mine are the 2mm Sandal Socks with the tough but flexible soles. They may be out of production now but other distributors may have your size. These are great for walking in over pavements, gravel, grass stickers, reefs, boiling hot sand, etc., and don't create holes in the fin socks after a few "rugged walks." Happy Surfing in the New Year! |
| 231369 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 77 | paipodude | Dec 26, 2021 | 2021-12-26T11:43:21-0500 | Niau said: <snip> I wear the 3mm O'Neill fin socks year round, but I have a pair of polypro sock liners that I wear underneath that also makes the wetsuit go on and off easier. <snip> Click to expand... A friend recently turned me on to a very useful tip in sliding on those long sleeved, long legged wetsuits... put your foot or hand inside a plastic bag (the kind from a fast food or grocery store) and it will slide right through the wetsuit... then use it for the next sleeve or leg. |
| 231373 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 78 | michael | Dec 26, 2021 | 2021-12-26T12:40:57-0500 | Aha so sounds like trying to cram a boot in the fin was my first mistake. Maybe I’ll get a couple pairs of socks to layer. I’m an L in da fin normally with 1mm wet sock |
| 231380 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 79 | paipodude | Dec 26, 2021 | 2021-12-26T13:51:02-0500 | michael said: Aha so sounds like trying to cram a boot in the fin was my first mistake. Maybe I'll get a couple pairs of socks to layer. I'm an L in da fin normally with 1mm wet sock Click to expand... NRS has some thick fin socks. Worth checking out. Most surf shops will not, only booties. |
| 231490 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 80 | nedsurf | Dec 27, 2021 | 2021-12-27T16:26:57-0500 | michael said: Aha so sounds like trying to cram a boot in the fin was my first mistake. Maybe I'll get a couple pairs of socks to layer. I'm an L in da fin normally with 1mm wet sock Click to expand... Try a thin polypro sock liner inside the fin sock |
| 233501 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 81 | surfingcattle | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T18:00:50-0500 | What fins do you all use with your surf mats? I'm new to matting and am looking at Yucca but the different flex options are throwing me off |
| 233502 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 82 | michael | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T18:03:29-0500 | surfingcattle said: What fins do you all use with your surf mats? I'm new to matting and am looking at Yucca but the different flex options are throwing me off Click to expand... I found the Yuccas to hurt my feet. Da Fins for me. |
| 233505 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 83 | surfingcattle | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T18:18:14-0500 | michael said: I found the Yuccas to hurt my feet. Da Fins for me. Click to expand... Perhaps I'll have the same issue then. I have Churchill Makapuus from Costco and they were too harsh for me. Have scabs on my inner ankle bone right now from them... |
| 233507 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 84 | XXX | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T18:30:04-0500 | Hy surfingcattle said: Perhaps I'll have the same issue then. I have Churchill Makapuus from Costco and they were too harsh for me. Have scabs on my inner ankle bone right now from them... Click to expand... Hydro fins very comfortable and less $ than most. |
| 233510 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 85 | thomas | Jan 12, 2022 | 2022-01-12T18:45:54-0500 | Fins are very unique to the person...they all fit differently... I really like my regular flex Yuccas, but would like to get the ultra softs for body surfing. The main dude at Yucca, don't know his name, has a good little video explaining the different flexes. |
| 233525 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 86 | samb | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T20:13:13-0500 | surfingcattle said: What fins do you all use with your surf mats? I'm new to matting and am looking at Yucca but the different flex options are throwing me off Click to expand... For a while I was using PSS Viper's, but found that UDTs with "Greenough modifications" ( http://23breaths.blogspot.com/2010/09/more-gg-udt-mods.html?m=1 ) worked really well. Lately, I'm quite happy with Yucca ultra soft. |
| 233540 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 87 | paipodude | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T21:14:14-0500 | surfingcattle said: What fins do you all use with your surf mats? I'm new to matting and am looking at Yucca but the different flex options are throwing me off Click to expand... [link removed] surfingcattle said: What fins do you all use with your surf mats? I'm new to matting and am looking at Yucca but the different flex options are throwing me off Click to expand... [link removed] See 3rd paragraph here: [link removed] [link removed] And further down, more. Ideally, read the entire thread for more insights. [link removed] |
| 233541 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 88 | B2Lose | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T21:29:55-0500 | I like ERS4's. They're the old Redley mould. The only fins I can wear without finsocks for a significant amount of time. |
| 233543 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 89 | surfingcattle | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T21:32:33-0500 | I appreciate everyone's answers. I found this, which seems to be a good resource. A lot of these interviews include questions about the mat surfer's quiver, which, for a lot of them, includes specific fin brand references: https://www.matsurfers.com/about-here-now |
| 233544 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 90 | XXX | Jan 13, 2022 | 2022-01-12T21:37:58-0500 | paipodude said: [link removed] [link removed] See 3rd paragraph here: [link removed] [link removed] And further down, more. Ideally, read the entire thread for more insights. [link removed] Click to expand... Some helpful and thought provoking info. All future fin recommendations should be accompanied by foot/toe type. Looking at feet will never be the same. Egyptian here. |
| 234117 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 91 | nedsurf | Jan 17, 2022 | 2022-01-17T12:28:44-0500 | Duckfin if they fit. I ended up shaving and carving mine so they stopped giving me holes in my anklebone and on my feet. You can pretty much modify any fin for fit. Fin socks help. DaFin comfy foot pocket for me, less thrust than the Duckys, never a fin sock, decent thrust. UDT's work but are overkill for small surf that I ride. By the way, I have a pair of black/yellow UDTs that I want to sell, local to SD/Oceanside only. PM if interested. I think they are XL, will check for sure. |
| 234154 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 92 | surfingcattle | Jan 17, 2022 | 2022-01-17T15:13:20-0500 | nedsurf said: Duckfin if they fit. I ended up shaving and carving mine so they stopped giving me holes in my anklebone and on my feet. You can pretty much modify any fin for fit. Fin socks help. DaFin comfy foot pocket for me, less thrust than the Duckys, never a fin sock, decent thrust. UDT's work but are overkill for small surf that I ride. By the way, I have a pair of black/yellow UDTs that I want to sell, local to SD/Oceanside only. PM if interested. I think they are XL, will check for sure. Click to expand... Thanks for the offer. Those will be too big for me though and I'm not local. I'm gonna go look into the duckfin |
| 234611 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 93 | TonyPR | Jan 22, 2022 | 2022-01-21T22:04:58-0500 | One should try different fins until one finds the best fin that works for you, not for anyone else. Throughout the years it has consistently been MS Vipers for me though you need strong legs for them, the only drawback for me is I have to use them with socks, not because they cut me but because of fit, no biggie but it’s just an extra I don’t really need in the warm waters of the Caribbean. That’s the reason that lately I have been using DaFins ML which are the only fins that fit me perfectly without socks. Great fins for bodysurfing too, I prefer my MS Vipers but when I’m feeling lazy I just put on a pair of DaFin. For bodyboarding I switch between the MS Vipers and regular Churchills with socks. This has all been trial and error and believe me I have tried many different kinds of fin but like I said at the beginning, everyone is different. |
| 263592 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 94 | longboardkook | Oct 24, 2022 | 2022-10-24T13:52:10-0400 | Have scored some fun mat surfing lately. Newport Beach early Oct, the surfmat meet up in Ocean Beach (San Diego) the other week, river mat surfing a now "green faced" wave in Salida, Colorado last week.. So wish I could do it all: live at the beach; live near the river waves; and live up in the mountains (snowboarding/snowkating/powsurfing)... Newport Beach, CA on a small fun morning. Duck walking (I never bodyboarded before so these fins are hard for me to beach navigate). Scored a real nice set of Yucca ultra soft flex fins that work so well barefooted. I have a set of XXL Yucca ultra soft fins I use in the river over 7mm booties for the cold water. Was such a cool surfmat meetup. Worth my flight and room points used!!! Surfline shots of the surfmat meetup. Matsurfers on the black ball-near side of the jetty. All matsurfers in this pic!!! At one time I counted like 30+ mat surfers in the line-up sharing the joy of riding bags of air for fun. Image processing. Refresh page to view Salida, Colorado "Scout Wave"- this river wave is so fun now it has been renovated to a glassy green wave. Image processing. Refresh page to view Hahaha, me w/ my Avs beanie (Stanley Cup Champs!)... Actually wore this hat while mat surfing Ocean Beach. |
| 263604 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 95 | nedsurf | Oct 24, 2022 | 2022-10-24T15:03:04-0400 | longboardkook said: Have scored some fun mat surfing lately. Newport Beach early Oct, the surfmat meet up in Ocean Beach (San Diego) the other week, river mat surfing a now "green faced" wave in Salida, Colorado last week.. So wish I could do it all: live at the beach; live near the river waves; and live up in the mountains (snowboarding/snowkating/powsurfing)... View attachment 50464 Newport Beach, CA on a small fun morning. View attachment 50465 Duck walking (I never bodyboarded before so these fins are hard for me to beach navigate). Scored a real nice set of Yucca ultra soft flex fins that work so well barefooted. I have a set of XXL Yucca ultra soft fins I use in the river over 7mm booties for the cold water. View attachment 50466 Was such a cool surfmat meetup. Worth my flight and room points used!!! View attachment 50468 Surfline shots of the surfmat meetup. Matsurfers on the black ball-near side of the jetty. View attachment 50469 All matsurfers in this pic!!! At one time I counted like 30+ mat surfers in the line-up sharing the joy of riding bags of air for fun. View attachment 50473 Salida, Colorado "Scout Wave"- this river wave is so fun now it has been renovated to a glassy green wave. View attachment 50471 Hahaha, me w/ my Avs beanie (Stanley Cup Champs!)... Actually wore this hat while mat surfing Ocean Beach. Click to expand... Did you run into James (Matitude) at Salida? Yesterday we talked about his Colorado trip last week, he had a blast. I may be back in Co in Nov but probably won't bring my gear, water will be too cold for my 3/2. I faced that same location quandry in my 35 years in Co but finally moved back to California when my wife refused to drive Boulder Canyon anymore in the winter. I realized about 1:00pm that day that I had spaced the mat meet at OB, was depressed the rest of the day. |
| 263612 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 96 | longboardkook | Oct 24, 2022 | 2022-10-24T16:06:54-0400 | nedsurf said: Did you run into James (Matitude) at Salida? Yesterday we talked about his Colorado trip last week, he had a blast. I may be back in Co in Nov but probably won't bring my gear, water will be too cold for my 3/2. I faced that same location quandry in my 35 years in Co but finally moved back to California when my wife refused to drive Boulder Canyon anymore in the winter. I realized about 1:00pm that day that I had spaced the mat meet at OB, was depressed the rest of the day. Click to expand... Yep, got to matsurf with James at Salida last week. Rad dude, I need to catch an ocean matsurf with him, and you. November starts to get cold but actually the flow should be increasing in Nov. Consider bringing your mat and fins. Maybe rent a thick wetsuit And gloves… |
| 263630 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 97 | PeakMaster | Oct 24, 2022 | 2022-10-24T17:22:51-0400 | Rafts for kids by any other name...haha |
| 263719 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 98 | longboardkook | Oct 25, 2022 | 2022-10-25T17:08:51-0400 | PeakMaster said: Rafts for kids by any other name...haha Click to expand... Hahaha…. I prefer blow up dog bed…. So fun though. |
| 282342 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 99 | 606venezia | May 26, 2023 | 2023-05-25T21:38:19-0400 | Link to Youtube that won't preview in the forum software |
| 282344 | 10035 | Surf Mats... What's the Deal? | 100 | longboardkook | May 26, 2023 | 2023-05-25T21:45:04-0400 | 606venezia said: Click to expand... Think you have to make the vid public to so we can see it. |
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