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| 200878 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 205 | XXX | Mar 10, 2021 | 2021-03-09T21:34:21-0500 | Souvlaks said: Sorry to raise a very old thread but didn't want to start a completely new one! Just picked up a 9'6 John Peck shaped (so im told) Penetrator from the early 2000's in Hanalei Bay. Apparently, he made it a bit narrower for the Bay waves specifically. Previous owner had a 7.5 4a in it which seems superrr small, so I'm headed out to purchase probably a 9inch or so right now. He mentioned that he didn't really enjoy the ride as it was more of a trim machine than anything else. Interested to hear what everyone else is throwing in here for a fin + expectations/things to look out for on such a log. It's absolutely pouring right now in Kauai and the bay looks like chocolate milk so I may give it a few days to settle down but stoked to try it out! Some pretty bad pics of the outline + some decals I can't identify. Looks like Harold Walker foam: Click to expand... www.drd4fins.com hand made glass fins from USA |
| 200943 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 206 | Sax-son | Mar 10, 2021 | 2021-03-10T16:36:59-0500 | I don't have any experience with John Peck's shaping, but I am sure he does a good job. However, Dennis Ryder was one of the guys who were pounding them out in the mid 1960's so I would go with him. I have seen some of Dennis Ryder's retro Penetrators' and they look authentic although I personally never liked those boards. However, I am sure there are some who do like them. |
| 200983 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 207 | SeniorGrom | Mar 11, 2021 | 2021-03-10T21:57:31-0500 | We already know what our fellow member ‘respectthepeck’ thinks. Never tried a Penetrator but really like a wingnose board. I have two that are keepers. 1) 10’ vintage Surfboards Hawaii NR 2) 9’10” JP Blue Max Both very different boards but excellent! |
| 207456 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 208 | pointsurfer | May 16, 2021 | 2021-05-16T15:42:45-0400 | For all of you who didn't know. Dennis Ryder actually shaped the first Peck Penetrator. John did the template and roughed it out. Dennis did the rest of the design. |
| 207870 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 209 | Sax-son | May 20, 2021 | 2021-05-20T10:21:43-0400 | As a teenager, I rode about every Morey-Pope model that was ever made. Many of my surf buddies owned them. The shop was only 10 miles from my home so there were plenty around at the time. "The Eliminator", "AAA Contender", "Penetrator", "Blue Machine", "Camel" were some of their top models. Aside from Bob Cooper's "Blue Machine", none of those boards were really my cup of tea. I was more inclined to some of the Bing, Yater, and Weber models. During the early 1970's, I had so many that were left at my beach house, I had to give away at least a dozen or so because there was no room left in my yard. You can only fit so many surfboards on a 25' X 75' beach lot. A couple of those I wished I had kept. |
| 207871 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 210 | Pierpont Scott | May 20, 2021 | 2021-05-20T10:28:11-0400 | Niau said: www.drd4fins.com hand made glass fins from USA Click to expand... Not that it really matters but they are cnc'd . Nicer foil in my opinion . I buy fins from him all the time |
| 229226 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 211 | V.Manoc | Dec 5, 2021 | 2021-12-05T18:18:46-0500 | Souvlaks said: Sorry to raise a very old thread but didn't want to start a completely new one! Just picked up a 9'6 John Peck shaped (so im told) Penetrator from the early 2000's in Hanalei Bay. Apparently, he made it a bit narrower for the Bay waves specifically. Previous owner had a 7.5 4a in it which seems superrr small, so I'm headed out to purchase probably a 9inch or so right now. He mentioned that he didn't really enjoy the ride as it was more of a trim machine than anything else. Interested to hear what everyone else is throwing in here for a fin + expectations/things to look out for on such a log. It's absolutely pouring right now in Kauai and the bay looks like chocolate milk so I may give it a few days to settle down but stoked to try it out! Some pretty bad pics of the outline + some decals I can't identify. Looks like Harold Walker foam: Click to expand... Ever find a good fin for your John Peck!?! I just picked up a gunny 10' John Peck shaped Penetrator and looking for a solid fin to throw in her! |
| 229233 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 212 | V.Manoc | Dec 6, 2021 | 2021-12-05T19:43:05-0500 | Souvlaks said: I rode it with a 9.0 4a but left it in Kauai so didn't get to experiment too much. From the 9.0 experience, I'd probably try going a bit bigger even. It was quite loose at that length. Click to expand... Right on! Thanks for the info. |
| 229501 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 213 | Big D | Dec 8, 2021 | 2021-12-08T00:52:23-0500 | If you ask my wife I would hope she'd say me vs. some old boyfriend. |
| 263019 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 214 | pointsurfer | Oct 17, 2022 | 2022-10-17T15:26:32-0400 | V.Manoc said: Ever find a good fin for your John Peck!?! I just picked up a gunny 10' John Peck shaped Penetrator and looking for a solid fin to throw in her! Click to expand... Bhane makes 2 of the original Peck fins. |
| 34191 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 1 | whale | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T07:00:47-0500 | I see there's been a lot of discussion recently about the Peck Penetrator. But who makes a better one? I guess that's probably a subjective question, but I wonder. While Peck is the surfer, Ryder is the shaper. Do you go with the legend, or the one who made the board under the legend's feet? |
| 34192 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 2 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T07:36:20-0500 | I dunno...but I have a pristine 9.6 shaped by Dennis with the slip check..that has been surfed like 3 times FOR SALE to Jamboarders at $700 cash ...new ones are, you know, pricier by far |
| 34193 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 3 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T08:06:43-0500 | whale wrote: I see there's been a lot of discussion recently about the Peck Penetrator. But who makes a better one? I guess that's probably a subjective question, but I wonder. While Peck is the surfer, Ryder is the shaper. Do you go with the legend, or the one who made the board under the legend's feet? Click to expand... I have a Dennis Ryder one and one shaped by John Peck, signed by him, "for Robby Kegel"....also one by Matt Calvani, 9.8 wing nose to 50/50 pinched rails to a nice 5" tail block square-tail with perfect tail flip...entry rocker is super flat...one of my very favorite boards of all time...I have to remember to stall it prior to walking, so very fast...one of my fastest single fin longboard....my fastest yet are John Wesley's shapes, the WASP amazing its mini-squash, like the Pecks |
| 34194 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 4 | NewportGeek | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T09:08:05-0500 | sterling - hang on to that board John shaped for Robbie - its a great shape for big waves and will probably be valuable someday due to it having touched both John and Robin. Errr, I mean you should sell it to me and I agree John Wesley is a good and talented kid, I'm really excited about the development of his shaping ideas. |
| 34195 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 5 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T09:41:57-0500 | NewportGeek wrote: sterling - hang on to that board John shaped for Robbie - its a great shape for big waves and will probably be valuable someday due to it having touched both John and Robin. Errr, I mean you should sell it to me and I agree John Wesley is a good and talented kid, I'm really excited about the development of his shaping ideas. Click to expand... I gotcha on the not selling...I, in a lapse or reason, sold #4 for Alex by R. Kegel....the colorful one,,,dangit to heck! Newport Geek knows more about Penetrators since Morey and rides a modern day pulled in Peck by Peck incredibly, crazy well...as he would on anything else...he really knows penetrators and as far as I can tell, absolutely loves 'em. |
| 34199 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 6 | takefive | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T10:50:53-0500 | I have a 9'4 that John shaped for me and a 9'2 Dennis Ryder, both boards are excellent boards. The ultra Flight is better off the tail and better in big waves And Dennis likes making the classic penetrator.Dennis is also a really good surfer.Dennis is making me a new 9'6 pintail that should be killer.Ultimate point break board.You stall, stall ,stall and come from behind the section on the tip fast. |
| 34200 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 7 | BoardDesign | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T11:19:42-0500 | I like Dennis, He's a great guy and surfer. I would buy the shapers board not the surfers... But, I've never rode either of the boards mentioned. |
| 34201 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 8 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T11:44:48-0500 | Help me out, but the movie of vintage peck surfing big hollywopd by the sea? May have been tje Californians I remember he was smoking a cigarette. Yhay board is so bladey flat. Great amazing footage of an icon. |
| 34202 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 9 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T11:50:42-0500 | And Newport Geek, would love how urs have evolved? Do u prefer a total downrailer. Narrow/gunny. My Peck for Rk is 9.6 21" downhard all iver and super flat. I thjnk concave on a board like this is superfulous. Needs a handbrake |
| 34203 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 10 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T11:51:44-0500 | sterling wrote: And Newport Geek, would love how urs have evolved? Do u prefer a total downrailer. Narrow/gunny. My Peck for Rk is 9.6 21" downhard all iver and super flat. I thjnk concave on a board like this is superfulous. Needs a handbrake Click to expand... Its an Ultra-Flite |
| 34208 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 11 | NewportGeek | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T13:48:22-0500 | I ride 8'10"-9'1" x 20.0"-20.5" x 2.25-2.5" downrail nose uprail tail... big fin. The rocker and vee out the back half of the board are really the only things I'm still messing with... |
| 34209 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 12 | takefive | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:00:29-0500 | Thats what takes getting use to on the penetrators is the speed you get on the nose.Most boards slow down and stall for hang time but the wing nose takes flight. Being a goofy foot and surfing rincon most of my life made its tough at times with the old rail grab but not if you have speed via flat nose down rail. I remember watching cooper and peck make sections at Rincon that no one else could and cooper would do it hanging ten. |
| 34210 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 13 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:15:04-0500 | takefive wrote: Thats what takes getting use to on the penetrators is the speed you get on the nose.Most boards slow down and stall for hang time but the wing nose takes flight. Being a goofy foot and surfing rincon most of my life made its tough at times with the old rail grab but not if you have speed via flat nose down rail. I remember watching cooper and peck make sections at Rincon that no one else could and cooper would do it hanging ten. Click to expand... love it...Robby Kegel's apparent favorite board of all time from what he's told me: you guessed it Tyler H's wing nose, reverse rocker shaped board.....wild |
| 34211 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 14 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:20:35-0500 | I would love to see a "Wingnose" group- up from this forum at a fun wave socal spot |
| 34212 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 15 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:20:56-0500 | this winter |
| 34213 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 16 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:22:08-0500 | like the pig-fest...possible camp-out at Jamala |
| 34214 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 17 | Stef | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:25:10-0500 | sterling wrote: takefive wrote: Thats what takes getting use to on the penetrators is the speed you get on the nose.Most boards slow down and stall for hang time but the wing nose takes flight. Being a goofy foot and surfing rincon most of my life made its tough at times with the old rail grab but not if you have speed via flat nose down rail. I remember watching cooper and peck make sections at Rincon that no one else could and cooper would do it hanging ten. Click to expand... love it...Robby Kegel's apparent favorite board of all time from what he's told me: you guessed it Tyler H's wing nose, reverse rocker shaped board.....wild Click to expand... i own a tyler wingnose that was shaped for robbie. pretty fun board |
| 34215 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 18 | takefive | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:30:16-0500 | I'll try and get some pics up of current wingnose. Stef would love to see pic of the Tyler. |
| 34216 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 19 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:33:59-0500 | Stef wrote: sterling wrote: takefive wrote: Thats what takes getting use to on the penetrators is the speed you get on the nose.Most boards slow down and stall for hang time but the wing nose takes flight. Being a goofy foot and surfing rincon most of my life made its tough at times with the old rail grab but not if you have speed via flat nose down rail. I remember watching cooper and peck make sections at Rincon that no one else could and cooper would do it hanging ten. Click to expand... love it...Robby Kegel's apparent favorite board of all time from what he's told me: you guessed it Tyler H's wing nose, reverse rocker shaped board.....wild Click to expand... i own a tyler wingnose that was shaped for robbie. hang on to it Setph ...it too is a collector's item and/or Ill buy it for 450 Â pretty fun board Click to expand... |
| 34217 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 20 | Stef | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:40:44-0500 | sterling wrote: Stef wrote: sterling wrote: takefive wrote: Thats what takes getting use to on the penetrators is the speed you get on the nose.Most boards slow down and stall for hang time but the wing nose takes flight. Being a goofy foot and surfing rincon most of my life made its tough at times with the old rail grab but not if you have speed via flat nose down rail. I remember watching cooper and peck make sections at Rincon that no one else could and cooper would do it hanging ten. Click to expand... love it...Robby Kegel's apparent favorite board of all time from what he's told me: you guessed it Tyler H's wing nose, reverse rocker shaped board.....wild Click to expand... i own a tyler wingnose that was shaped for robbie. hang on to it Setph ...it too is a collector's item and/or Ill buy it for 450 pretty fun board Click to expand... Click to expand... hahah oh, you funny, fofiddy, nah....... its a keeper, i have had for five plus years, revisit it every so often as i have again lately - i surfed it in small OB before the contest came to town and fell in love with it all over again , so its in my van in rotation again. takefive, i post up some pics tomorrow. |
| 34218 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 21 | takefive | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T14:42:50-0500 | Sterling group session would be great how about C street home of the Penetrator.Lots of camp spots around here. |
| 34219 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 22 | sterling | Nov 22, 2011 | 2011-11-22T17:17:43-0500 | takefive wrote: Sterling group session would be great how about C street home of the Penetrator.Lots of camp spots around here. Click to expand... I love it...lets time it with the nxt nice nw....would be nice to meet Dennis at ground zero |
| 34220 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 23 | whale | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-22T22:50:53-0500 | What's the difference between Tyler's Wingnose and the Penetrator? |
| 34222 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 24 | sterling | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T01:48:16-0500 | whale wrote: What's the difference between Tyler's Wingnose and the Penetrator? Click to expand... tylers wing nose is a reverse rocker shaped board., i.e. the tail of the blank is the nose...lots and lots of tail rocker |
| 34223 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 25 | sterling | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T01:48:30-0500 | whale wrote: What's the difference between Tyler's Wingnose and the Penetrator? Click to expand... tylers wing nose is a reverse rocker shaped board., i.e. the tail of the blank is the nose...lots and lots of tail rocker |
| 34224 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 26 | whale | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T03:11:49-0500 | how does that make it ride different? |
| 34225 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 27 | NewportGeek | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T03:58:58-0500 | whale tail rocker makes for lots of stalling and a shorter, looser turn radius. also the tyler wingnose is substantially wider than Penetrators. I think the wing nose I saw was 23" (and change.) Johns boards are usually in the 21"-21.5" range. A wingnose group sounds like a good idea to me! |
| 34226 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 28 | Stef | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T05:46:41-0500 | takefive wrote: I'll try and get some pics up of current wingnose. Stef would love to see pic of the Tyler. Click to expand... here's a few pics i snapped. this one the tail is at right side of picture, you can see the kick Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34227 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 29 | Stef | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T05:47:25-0500 | heres the downturned nose Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34228 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 30 | Stef | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T05:48:24-0500 | bottom Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34229 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 31 | Stef | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T05:50:29-0500 | top which is in dire need of a cleaning. i know kinda gross huh ? Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34230 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 32 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T06:27:53-0500 | wingnose Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34231 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 33 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T06:33:27-0500 | ultra flight tail Attached files |
| 34232 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 34 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T06:34:27-0500 | oops this one Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34233 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 35 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T06:37:39-0500 | Loving Brothers DR JP Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34234 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 36 | Miles | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T06:41:00-0500 | Stef wrote: top which is in dire need of a cleaning. i know kinda gross huh ? Click to expand... A fine example of true board porn |
| 34237 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 37 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T07:44:36-0500 | I don't want to leave out the cousin, 10'3 Blue Machine Coopers ride of choice Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34253 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 38 | sterling | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T13:46:04-0500 | Stef wrote: takefive wrote: I'll try and get some pics up of current wingnose. Stef would love to see pic of the Tyler. Click to expand... here's a few pics i snapped. this one the tail is at right side of picture, you can see the kick Click to expand... dewdette....that is webster's definition of tail-kick! |
| 34254 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 39 | sterling | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T13:57:18-0500 | takefive wrote: I have a 9'4 that John shaped for me and a 9'2 Dennis Ryder, both boards are excellent boards. The ultra Flight is better off the tail and better in big waves And Dennis likes making the classic penetrator.Dennis is also a really good surfer.Dennis is making me a new 9'6 pintail that should be killer.Ultimate point break board.You stall, stall ,stall and come from behind the section on the tip fast. Click to expand... love it...is the blue penetrator a nod of respect for the blue machine? |
| 34255 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 40 | sterling | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T13:59:17-0500 | sterling wrote: takefive wrote: I have a 9'4 that John shaped for me and a 9'2 Dennis Ryder, both boards are excellent boards. The ultra Flight is better off the tail and better in big waves And Dennis likes making the classic penetrator.Dennis is also a really good surfer.Dennis is making me a new 9'6 pintail that should be killer.Ultimate point break board.You stall, stall ,stall and come from behind the section on the tip fast. Click to expand... love it...is the blue penetrator a nod of respect for the blue machine? Click to expand... we don't hear a lot about Bob Cooper and his blue machine in san clemente, would love to know more. |
| 34259 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 41 | Stef | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T14:18:55-0500 | sterling wrote: Stef wrote: takefive wrote: I'll try and get some pics up of current wingnose. Stef would love to see pic of the Tyler. Click to expand... here's a few pics i snapped. this one the tail is at right side of picture, you can see the kick Click to expand... dewdette....that is webster's definition of tail-kick! Click to expand... init, that shot really captures it. reminds me of my old sims pure juice skateboard. |
| 34260 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 42 | nedsurf | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T14:27:06-0500 | Have a good turkey day Stef. |
| 34261 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 43 | Stef | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T14:29:18-0500 | you too don ! and sterling and miles, happy -t-day to you guys too ! edit : and you too take five |
| 34262 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 44 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T14:34:14-0500 | sterling, Cooper never got the recognition he deserved not that he wanted it. Being a sixteen year old Rincon surf rat groom local I was lucky enough to see all the icon surfers of that time period surf rincon. Cooper had rincon dialed amazing tip rides with style and grace.When he was making the blue machines he was surfing at his best, a period that was to short lived soon after boards got chopped in half.The blue machines were getting shorter and shorter then everyone started stripping their longboards and shaping their own boards backyard specials . |
| 34263 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 45 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T14:57:37-0500 | This is what I rode back then and still do.Imagine stripping the glass off this beauty. Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34264 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 46 | sterling | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T15:00:35-0500 | takefive wrote: sterling, Cooper never got the recognition he deserved not that he wanted it. Being a sixteen year old Rincon surf rat groom local I was lucky enough to see all the icon surfers of that time period surf rincon. Cooper had rincon dialed amazing tip rides with style and grace.When he was making the blue machines he was surfing at his best, a period that was to short lived soon after boards got chopped in half.The blue machines were getting shorter and shorter then everyone started stripping their longboards and shaping their own boards backyard specials . Click to expand... great surf history and culture that I don;t know about, too cool grown' up at the Queen! |
| 34265 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 47 | sterling | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T15:02:22-0500 | Stef wrote: you too don ! and sterling and miles, happy -t-day to you guys too ! edit : and you too take five Click to expand... same to you Stef...let's group soon! |
| 34269 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 48 | Miles | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T15:20:04-0500 | Happy Thanksgiving to all ya'll, too. How long is that takefive? Looks like it's either pretty long or pretty narrow. Got a rocker and or fin shot handy? Thanks in advance. |
| 34270 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 49 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T16:07:21-0500 | 9'8 Not that narrow, weird angle shot I'll try and get one of the fin later. Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34271 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 50 | takefive | Nov 23, 2011 | 2011-11-23T16:20:02-0500 | Renny shaped a lot of spoons but only a handful of nose specializers. |
| 34279 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 51 | Miles | Nov 24, 2011 | 2011-11-24T01:50:36-0500 | Nice. I should have prefaced my thoughts with the fact that anything under 23" is narrow to me. |
| 34282 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 52 | sterling | Nov 24, 2011 | 2011-11-24T04:42:06-0500 | takefive wrote: Renny shaped a lot of spoons but only a handful of nose specializers. Click to expand... really nice |
| 34283 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 53 | Stef | Nov 24, 2011 | 2011-11-24T04:48:45-0500 | sterling wrote: takefive wrote: Renny shaped a lot of spoons but only a handful of nose specializers. Click to expand... really nice Click to expand... i agree, very nice. i saw one recently in person that another forum member has. definitely one of those boards that i would like to try. hey guys , i would love to have a day where we meet up and you can try my Tyler. i also have a vintage Rick Dru Harrison, i think you mentioned you have one take5 , maybe sterling you could bring your Rick UFO. i could also bring my vintage Bings ( DNNR and Lightweight) if you wanted to bring your Bing DNNR aka Limey. |
| 34290 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 54 | whale | Nov 24, 2011 | 2011-11-24T07:57:04-0500 | so, back to the tyler wingnose and penetrator. Given the kick in the tail, would Tyler's board be better in beach break? |
| 34294 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 55 | nedsurf | Nov 24, 2011 | 2011-11-24T09:44:58-0500 | Stef wrote: sterling wrote: takefive wrote: Renny shaped a lot of spoons but only a handful of nose specializers. Click to expand... really nice Click to expand... i agree, very nice. i saw one recently in person that another forum member has. definitely one of those boards that i would like to try. hey guys , i would love to have a day where we meet up and you can try my Tyler. i also have a vintage Rick Dru Harrison, i think you mentioned you have one take5 , maybe sterling you could bring your Rick UFO. i could also bring my vintage Bings ( DNNR and Lightweight) if you wanted to bring your Bing DNNR aka Limey. Click to expand... Pick a time and place, let's see if we can make it happen. |
| 34296 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 56 | sterling | Nov 24, 2011 | 2011-11-24T10:41:18-0500 | nedsurf wrote: Stef wrote: sterling wrote: takefive wrote: Renny shaped a lot of spoons but only a handful of nose specializers. Click to expand... really nice Click to expand... i agree, very nice. i saw one recently in person that another forum member has. definitely one of those boards that i would like to try. hey guys , i would love to have a day where we meet up and you can try my Tyler. Would love to see and surf em anytime anywhere. Fun waves today, everybody must be bloated as nobody out i also have a vintage Rick Dru Harrison, i think you mentioned you have one take5 , maybe sterling you could bring your Rick UFO. i could also bring my vintage Bings ( DNNR and Lightweight) if you wanted to bring your Bing DNNR aka Limey. Click to expand... Pick a time and place, let's see if we can make it happen. Click to expand... |
| 34297 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 57 | aslbuck | Nov 24, 2011 | 2011-11-24T16:55:36-0500 | takefive wrote: 9'8 Not that narrow, weird angle shot I'll try and get one of the fin later. Click to expand... Sweet stick Franky! Would love to check out the Yater sometime, maybe I will bring down my '67 Spoon for you to play around with? |
| 34300 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 58 | takefive | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T02:48:01-0500 | aslbuck wrote: takefive wrote: 9'8 Not that narrow, weird angle shot I'll try and get one of the fin later. Click to expand... Sweet stick Franky! Would love to check out the Yater sometime, maybe I will bring down my '67 Spoon for you to play around with?[/quote Andrew ,that would be great.Whale ,hope your cool with the direction that your post is going.But all shapers are connected in some way or another in the family tree in surfing.One question opens the door to a lot of other branches. Click to expand... |
| 34301 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 59 | Stef | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T03:05:45-0500 | whale wrote: so, back to the tyler wingnose and penetrator. Given the kick in the tail, would Tyler's board be better in beach break? Click to expand... whale i dont know if the tyler is "better" or not in beach break - but that is where i surf mine. |
| 34302 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 60 | takefive | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T03:30:22-0500 | I like the classic penetrator tail and kick for beach breaks, but would like to try Tyler and compare.The classic more roll in bottom and more width makes for a old school stall.But the wing nose is still a bit to fast for beach breaks out racing the wave.The tail having more kick should help slow it down. Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34303 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 61 | whale | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T03:34:36-0500 | Thanks, Stef. I'm glad my questions have facilitated a great discussion and perhaps even a get together, but I am really interested in getting info on the wingnose and penetrator. As I live on the east coast, I need a board that can handle beach break well, so it seems the Tyler might be better. But the penetrator has such history, and looks so badass, that I'm having a hard time making a decision. |
| 34304 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 62 | Stef | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T03:52:07-0500 | and know my hesitancy in answering is not being a jackass, hopefully it didnt sound as such, but for these reasons. 1) i have not surfed a penetrator except for once 10 years ago and honestly cant remember what it was like, though it was in beach break. 2) i am always being told, that i am not surfing appropriate board for the conditions. some of which is their ignorance as they are one dimensional in their equipment. this is coming from people that think i need to hack my fin off my vintage nuuhiwa and move it forward because its too far back. 3) perception is everything with surfing . i see it on here when someone is passionate about their board, they feel theirs is "the best" (my bing is the best noserider or paddler , or my coop or phillips is.......) but there are so many variables. experience , conditions, height /weight...what i like , you might not like, most of my friends dont like my boards, and i can say the same. 4) for instance the in the pink thread, my experience is that surftechs are corky, but ratzax insists that to him they are not. because thats his experience. so i dont want to say yes it is better , but for me it works good in beachbreak. so with that, who is not to say , that the penetrator feels better at your homebreak for you. |
| 34305 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 63 | Stef | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T03:57:51-0500 | and one last thing, sometimes i think its best to find that board that speaks to you and surf it, learn it, regardless of if someone thinks it good or better, it speaks to you. i have done that a fair amount, most of my boards i have are because they spoke to me. |
| 34307 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 64 | pointsurfer | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T07:55:39-0500 | Great thread “Whaleâ€! I feel that neither Dennis or John make a better board. It’s subjective and they are not in competition with each other. But please note that Dennis Ryder is the only person that is indorsed by John to make signature Penetrators. Dennis told me a great story about John, after surfing together on Kauai in 2005, John told Dennis that he had made him his most all time favorite board back in 1967. John took the board to Peru for one of the surf contest there. While there, John met a kid that was really stoked on surfing but was really poor, John said he could surf really well but didn’t have a board. So John gave him his all time favorite board. A tribute to what kind of guy John is. Dennis shaped that board for John when he was only 19 years old. The Penetrator is a classic board, period. When you see one of the old ones you know exactly what it is. There are few boards in surfing history like that. Think, Phil Edwards model, David Nuuhiwa nose rider, ect. This is why Dennis likes the classic shapes, and continues to shape them today. And how rare is it that the same guy that shaped this classic board in the early days still does it today. John Peck has a “Rocket†Penetrator on order with Dennis right now. Attached files |
| 34308 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 65 | takefive | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T11:21:51-0500 | Pointsurfer,Well said ,Stef, ocean beach is not your typical beach break a lot of juice I can see why it works for you there.Whale, I think this nose shot is bad ass. Attached files |
| 34310 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 66 | Stef | Nov 25, 2011 | 2011-11-25T11:34:25-0500 | i agree take5 , very well said pointsurfer .... and subjective is a much better word for what i described as perspective. |
| 34318 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 67 | whale | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T01:23:41-0500 | Thanks, Stef and Pointsurfer, your points are very well taken. If you all get together posts some pics. Would love to see you all in action. |
| 34319 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 68 | Roach | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T01:52:18-0500 | Good $hit!!! really enjoying the posts in this one |
| 34333 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 69 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T13:06:50-0500 | Hello Friends of Los Penetratóres, attached is poor photo of the comparable overall rockers on my Peck by Peck - on top; Matt's 50/50 Perpetrator one-off under label of Bing Rick's. bottom board is the DR 9.6 softer down railer than the Peck x Peck. fwiw Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34334 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 70 | sk8thom | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T13:22:36-0500 | 9'6" x 22' x 3 ' Ultra Flite / matching yellow nose block, tail block and fin. Attached files |
| 34335 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 71 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T13:35:43-0500 | sterling wrote: Hello Friends of Los Penetratóres, attached is poor photo of the comparable overall rockers on my Peck by Peck - on top; Matt's 50/50 Perpetrator one-off under label of Bing Rick's. bottom board is the DR 9.6 softer down railer than the Peck x Peck. fwiw Click to expand... Peck x Peck is 9.8 ..21"wide..pronounced down-railer from wing nose to tail its a squash tail; Matt's shape is 9.8 50/50 from winged nose to square tail; DR's is 9.6 x 22.5 by 3...ezier 60/40ish down railer fwiw |
| 34336 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 72 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T13:37:04-0500 | pointsurfer wrote: Great thread “Whaleâ€! I feel that neither Dennis or John make a better board. It’s subjective and they are not in competition with each other. But please note that Dennis Ryder is the only person that is indorsed by John to make signature Penetrators.  Dennis told me a great story about John, after surfing together on Kauai in 2005, John told Dennis that he had made him his most all time favorite board back in 1967. John took the board to Peru for one of the surf contest there. While there, John met a kid that was really stoked on surfing but was really poor, John said he could surf really well but didn’t have a board. So John gave him his all time favorite board. A tribute to what kind of guy John is. Dennis shaped that board for John when he was only 19 years old.  The Penetrator is a classic board, period. When you see one of the old ones you know exactly what it is. There are few boards in surfing history like that. Think, Phil Edwards model, David Nuuhiwa nose rider, ect. This is why Dennis likes the classic shapes, and continues to shape them today. And how rare is it that the same guy that shaped this classic board in the early days still does it today.  John Peck has a “Rocket†Penetrator on order with Dennis right now. Click to expand... Reno Abillero, Dennis Ryder, John Peck...all icons |
| 34337 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 73 | takefive | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T14:03:23-0500 | Sterling,thanks for pics can you take another pic of matts board.Also does anybody out there watching this thread own a G&S Stretch they could post pics of and talk about?It was a board that I always wanted when it first came out. |
| 34338 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 74 | takefive | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T14:34:22-0500 | If this thread turns into a wingfest I think it opens a lot of doors for design and discussion that will make it a lot more interesting.I'm not just a wing man but it is a valuable tool to have in the quiver.Like the spoon theres a lot of variations and a design that was used by everybody at one point scooped nose,step deck,all the same spoon. |
| 34339 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 75 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T15:18:40-0500 | takefive wrote: Sterling,thanks for pics can you take another pic of matts board.Also does anybody out there watching this thread own a G&S Stretch they could post pics of and talk about?It was a board that I always wanted when it first came out. Click to expand... Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34340 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 76 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T15:19:58-0500 | nose of calvani take Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34341 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 77 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T15:22:55-0500 | bottom Attached files Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34342 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 78 | takefive | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T15:23:04-0500 | Looks like your go to board getting a lot of use. |
| 34344 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 79 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T15:28:28-0500 | takefive wrote: Looks like your go to board getting a lot of use. Click to expand... I surfed it for 3 months straight...not for the last 3 month as am into hullish mid-length creatures....by all mean imho the flat nose rocker allowed for early entry...i like the 50/50 rails vs downish...I surf a slower wave than santa barbara and north |
| 34345 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 80 | takefive | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T15:41:36-0500 | Calvani another great shaper, I have a 9'8 Levitator that is one of my favorite nose riders. |
| 34347 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 81 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T15:53:36-0500 | I think so too of recent time |
| 34348 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 82 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T15:55:00-0500 | sterling wrote: takefive wrote: Looks like your go to board getting a lot of use. Click to expand... I surfed it for 3 months straight...not for the last 3 month as am into hullish mid-length creatures....by all mean imho the flat nose rocker allowed for early entry...i like the 50/50 rails vs downish...I surf a slower wave than santa barbara and north Click to expand... meant to say rincon north |
| 34349 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 83 | takefive | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T16:08:54-0500 | Its to bad we didn't have our wing fest this week the surf was good up here.We should still try to put some thing together.may be after the holidays. |
| 34350 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 84 | dogleg | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T16:17:42-0500 | Hey hey, I wanna play.. Image processing. Refresh page to view Dead flat rocker, hard rail in the nose and belly in the tail. |
| 34351 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 85 | sterling | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T16:34:34-0500 | dogleg wrote: Hey hey, I wanna play.. Image processing. Refresh page to view Dead flat rocker, hard rail in the nose and belly in the tail.[/quote Nice Dogleg. These boards have so much fast entry they inspire lotd of passion. What say you? Click to expand... |
| 34352 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 86 | dogleg | Nov 26, 2011 | 2011-11-26T17:31:57-0500 | I wish it were longer, but then again, that's what makes it fun. It's 9'4 and I can bend it like no other. It's my go-to beach break longboardboard in chest high surf. You guys might also be interested in this: Image processing. Refresh page to view |
| 34363 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 87 | pointsurfer | Nov 27, 2011 | 2011-11-27T04:22:41-0500 | Some eye candy for all of you. Attached files |
| 34364 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 88 | pointsurfer | Nov 27, 2011 | 2011-11-27T04:24:16-0500 | nice tail shot Attached files |
| 34365 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 89 | pointsurfer | Nov 27, 2011 | 2011-11-27T04:24:47-0500 | great foil Attached files |
| 34366 | 409 | Who makes a better Penetrator | 90 | pointsurfer | Nov 27, 2011 | 2011-11-27T04:26:48-0500 | Thanks to Mike for shots of his board. Attached files |
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