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| 201904 | 9758 | CJ Nelson Outlier reviews? | 39 | WesCantDress | Mar 22, 2021 | 2021-03-21T23:29:27-0400 | jory said: Listened to an interesting podcast with ben skinner who does his skin dog brand through thunderbolt. He's sold on the construction itself but he also made some interesting points about how being involved with FireWire meant he could scale his business and actually make a living at it in a way that he couldn't have before (& also that thunderbolt themselves had kind of hit a wall themselves and needed access to better distribution.) Dragging this back to the boards themselves...... Just rode the Vaq in San o style stomach high peelers. Took a few waves to dial it in but was a really fun session. So comparisons / impressions as follows. The vaq paddles badly, like it's under water! They are different boards with a similar flavour. They both like a bowley section and bog a little in super flat sections. The vaquero feels like a proper hull. The roll in the bottom is much more noticeable and the board feels quite "tippy" when you first ride it. It covers ground laterally at an unbelievable speed, climbing and dropping and drawing out bottom turns. It cuts back much more naturally than the full on hull I've ridden and you can gently carve a turn back to the whitewater rather than just wallowing through an s turn stall. Backside is do able but it's definately more fun on your forehand. It rewards a smooth flow. Loved it. The outlier is much more neutral to surf. The flatter bottom contours mean you can push and generally be more aggressive through your turns. It's less squirley on your backhand. The outlier is definately less far up the hull design branch than the vaquero and is "easier" to surf especially if you are an intermediate surfer - it requires less of a particular style whereas the vaquero definately rewards treating it like a proper hull. The outlier is a great every day board. They're different enough to own both. Click to expand... Great review, appreciate the breakdown @jory . It looks like the Outlier has a slightly narrower tail compared to the Vaq? But similarities are there, plain to see. Did you happen to compare the back 1/3 of the two boards? I've seen pics of another Vaquero with a hefty dose of vee in the tail, whereas Outlier is more subtle I believe. Could account for the Nelson being more able to push through turns (project). Might also be a benefit in larger (HH) I'd guess. Then again I've heard guys riding Vaqueros in OH OB so... Cool to see both shapes side by side. Solid recon. |