{"database": "surfing", "table": "posts", "is_view": false, "human_description_en": "where thread_id = 1746", "rows": [["104195", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 175, "Dawnpatrol", "Sep 24, 2016", "2016-09-23T22:15:54-0400", "MrChristmas\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI want one of these!"], ["104196", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 176, "Dawnpatrol", "Sep 24, 2016", "2016-09-23T22:15:57-0400", "MrChristmas\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI want one of these!"], ["104197", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 177, "surfore", "Sep 24, 2016", "2016-09-23T22:29:16-0400", "Dawnpatrol\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMrChristmas\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI want one of these!\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tA 124 lbs guy on an 11' board? \n  Bourbon - sleep = snark."], ["104217", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 178, "fishy82", "Sep 24, 2016", "2016-09-24T10:26:12-0400", "surfore\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDawnpatrol\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMrChristmas\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI want one of these!\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tA 124 lbs guy on an 11' board? \n  Bourbon - sleep = snark.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tThat always baffled me. I get the whole glider thing. I think I'd like one but holy chit. How much foam does one need. I can catch a wave, stop to eat a sandwich, then start a bottom turn on a 9'...  With time to spare.  Wasn't Jim saying something about people overcompensating with foam...."], ["104224", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 179, "SMUKES", "Sep 24, 2016", "2016-09-24T10:52:17-0400", "skips a buck sixty and surfs a 12', is that ok?"], ["104240", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 180, "fishy82", "Sep 24, 2016", "2016-09-24T15:04:32-0400", "He's from San Diego so that's OK.  Everything new surfing related is from San Diego."], ["114283", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 181, "Fishy", "Apr 25, 2017", "2017-04-25T00:13:02-0400", "Bump for a great thread. Anybody got a glider update? I'm still digging the 10'6\" Mitsven Egg, but mainly in small surf. Thinking about a big Andreini for head high or a little bigger north county reefs....."], ["114284", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 182, "dingdong", "Apr 25, 2017", "2017-04-25T00:29:49-0400", "Dawnpatrol said: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMrChristmas\n wrote: \nI want one of these!\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nlol at that vid, the river dance pose is radness, I guess if its shin high that's about the best surfing you can do"], ["114342", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 183, "McQuad", "Apr 26, 2017", "2017-04-26T13:05:30-0400", "dingdong said: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            lol at that vid, the river dance pose is radness, I guess if its shin high that's about the best surfing you can do\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI just wasted a few minutes of my life on that video.  Still of the mindset anything over 10' is not needed.  Rode my 8'8 yesterday and was still in super early.  Huge fade then bottom turn, then stall, with plenty of time to spare... in a fast beachbreak ... different strokes i guess"], ["114349", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 184, "JMJackFish", "Apr 26, 2017", "2017-04-26T16:37:33-0400", "Surfed some real fun waves today on my Murphy fish/egg with some buddies.  Switched off with them to ride a new 10'6 Phil Edwards Glider and an 11' Hobie Blackbeard Glider.  3 1/2 hour session and all boards were dialed in.  The gliders were insane - in early and fast as hell down the line.  They really work here."], ["114350", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 185, "miscreant", "Apr 26, 2017", "2017-04-26T17:06:17-0400", "JMJackFish said: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Surfed some real fun waves today on my Murphy fish/egg with some buddies.  Switched off with them to ride a new 10'6 Phil Edwards Glider and an 11' Hobie Blackbeard Glider.  3 1/2 hour session and all boards were dialed in.  The gliders were insane - in early and fast as hell down the line.  They really work here.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\ni saw the camera feed of some waves near you. looked GOOD."], ["114359", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 186, "Dawnpatrol", "Apr 27, 2017", "2017-04-26T21:17:40-0400", "JMJackFish said: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Surfed some real fun waves today on my Murphy fish/egg with some buddies.  Switched off with them to ride a new 10'6 Phil Edwards Glider and an 11' Hobie Blackbeard Glider.  3 1/2 hour session and all boards were dialed in.  The gliders were insane - in early and fast as hell down the line.  They really work here.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nWho shaped that Hobie Blackbeard Glider?  Terry Martin, Gary Larsen or Sean Bailey?  Do they still shape them?"], ["114361", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 187, "JMJackFish", "Apr 27, 2017", "2017-04-26T22:09:33-0400", "Mark Johnson or Gary I believe.  It will be a new board they offer this year.  My friend gave them some input and he has the \"test board\".  It is sick.  Different from the Phil Glider for sure.  Both are keepers."], ["114362", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 188, "Dawnpatrol", "Apr 27, 2017", "2017-04-26T22:22:21-0400", "JMJackFish said: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Mark Johnson or Gary I believe.  It will be a new board they offer this year.  My friend gave them some input and he has the \"test board\".  It is sick.  Different from the Phil Glider for sure.  Both are keepers.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nAny idea on weight and dims JM.  Thanks for any info."], ["114364", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 189, "JMJackFish", "Apr 27, 2017", "2017-04-27T05:54:19-0400", "The Blackbeard has thinner rails and is glassed lighter than the new Phil Glider.  It has a triple stick, but the side ones were thin.  No tail block on it.  The nose and tail were also different.  You could nose ride the Blackbeard.\n\n\n\nThe Phil has triple stick redwood, tail block, volan with big patch.  It has a similar shape to the old Phil Edwards model but is thicker everywhere.  Gorgeous board.\n\n\n\nBoth were super fun and I'd be hard pressed to pick a favorite.  Hope to get one of each..."], ["114408", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 190, "Dawnpatrol", "Apr 27, 2017", "2017-04-27T19:55:40-0400", "Thanks JM!"], ["81066", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 1, "Surfnfish", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T12:24:45-0400", "Want to add a 10'0 glider style cruiser to the quiver, be used primarily in beachbreak, so a tad more rocker and outline curve.  Have come across some snippets about Larry Mabile doing this style, can't find much info on his web site.  Any other  shapers you'd recommend for a BB glider whose web site I can view for some ideas?"], ["81067", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 2, "ekim", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T12:30:21-0400", "http://www.micahwood.com/micah_wood_model.html"], ["81072", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 3, "Fishy", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T13:53:26-0400", "How about a 10' mabile or mitsven magic?"], ["81075", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 4, "Surfnfish", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T14:02:59-0400", "Fishy\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            How about a 10' mabile or mitsven magic?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nwould welcome feedback from anyone who has ridden the respective shapes."], ["81078", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 5, "MrChristmas", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T14:21:41-0400", "Surfnfish\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nFishy\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            How about a 10' mabile or mitsven magic?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nwould welcome feedback from anyone who has ridden the respective shapes.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tHave Both Flavors. In my opinion the Mabile is a little more user friendly rail wise more of a 60/40 vice the egg rail,(Skip Frye style) I think Larry Mabile puts a little more \"Hip\" back by the tail that makes his boards come around quicker. The Mitsven is fast but you have to surf it with a little more finesse and let the board do the work. IMHO the better alternative is Michael Miller, a true craftsman, solid person and some of the finest work around these parts! His creations work very well."], ["81079", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 6, "cuda", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T14:53:34-0400", "Skip's Eagles, what all \"glider\" boards are based off were designed for him to connect (beach break) sections from Harry's to PB point, \"cross country style\"surfing. Every beach break differs but this is as i recall the origin of the shape.growing up in PB watching Skip surf i can tell you they work great for this if your name is Skip Frye. That said they are not an easy board to ride properly, and beach breaks with the typical crowds add to the challenge.Mitsven, Mabile, Miller,Hall and Christenson all know the drill and all make very worthy versions. I have ridden them all along with  a few Andreini's. Pick a shaper you want to work with, if you are in southern CA Mitsven is my suggestion. I also suggest you go 10'6 as a starting point to get the full experience."], ["81080", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 7, "SMUKES", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T15:02:00-0400", "Get ahold of Jim Phillips and get one of those Hawaiian named things. Gliders are fer mush. That pointy smooth thing jim makes may be the most beautiful surfboard ive ever seen."], ["81082", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 8, "Fubar", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T16:29:49-0400", "Andreini Hippy Pin, that's what I use."], ["81083", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 9, "SharkB8", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T16:36:44-0400", "Got a 10-6 ricky carroll up for sale. He calls his a skipper. I'm Only selling to get a 11 footer of the same model. I personally have not tried another glider so I can compare.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view"], ["81084", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 10, "SharkB8", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T16:40:02-0400", "Forgot to mention your welcome to try it if you are in the area"], ["81086", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 11, "Surph", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T16:58:59-0400", "SharkB8\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Got a 10-6 ricky carroll up for sale. He calls his a skipper. I'm Only selling to get a 11 footer of the same model. I personally have not tried another glider so I can compare.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nI saw an original modern Skip Frye headed to RC for restoration a few years ago and it was most likely scanned or copied because RC skippers started showing up a few months later.  Nice looking template."], ["81087", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 12, "Surfnfish", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T17:15:26-0400", "all very helpful.  Located on the Oregon coast. Looking for idea more then anything, been reading some shapers perspective, such as Josh Hall.\n\n\n\nMy shaper, Art Coyler, has ordered in a 3 stringer for a 10' board.  He used to shape next to Larry Mabile back in the day, know's his shapes well, and can ping Larry for some rocker dims.\n\n\n\nLike to understand what makes a board work before I order it, and this board will be very different from my usual mid lengths and lb's."], ["81092", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 13, "Fubar", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T17:51:43-0400", "The two best 11' boards I've ridden are the above-mentioned Andreini and a Christenson. Both have drawn out pintail templates. Also, very flat rocker with a little bit of kick in the nose. Neither pushes much water and they paddle like lightening. The Christension was narrower, maybe by an inch and a bit thinner, more like a \"flying letter opener\" if you know what I mean. Make sure to go for 11'. You get a little bit earlier takeoff by going for 11' vs. 10'6\". It's worth it. \n\n\n\nBoth are good in beach break, which is mostly what there is around here. They are particularly good on bigger days when you getting more of the wave through a much earlier takeoff -- makes beach breaks easier to handle."], ["81096", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 14, "Surfnfish", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T18:53:47-0400", "great advice so far.  Going to go with the 10' since blank already in, size up on the next one.Really liking the outline on this one.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view"], ["81097", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 15, "jbb", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T18:59:32-0400", "Surfnfish\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            great advice so far.  Going to go with the 10' since blank already in, size up on the next one.Really liking the outline on this one.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tMy daily driver is a 10'3 version of this board. Rides a foot shorter than actual length but, catches just about anything. I ride the crap out of it in everything from sloppy beach break to lined up winter point swell. I've owned or ridden the mabile, m. miller, frye, numerous other San Diego shaper's glider models and my rat rod pin striped Andreini is the best, hands down. To each their own"], ["81098", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 16, "soul_glide", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T19:01:01-0400", "9'6 Mitsven eagle glider works for me in NJ bb.  Have surfed it both outside head high walled up zippers and steep inside jacking backwash peaks.  Also fun in small clean knee to belly sliders.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSingle concave nose blended to double concave through the tail with hard edge in the tail rails.  Killer tail rocker keeps it loose and lively.  Got it wired with a 7.5\" TA L-flex"], ["81099", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 17, "Surfnfish", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T19:08:31-0400", "Recently spent time with a rapidly emerging shaping friend measuring bottom rocker and contours on his favored boards from Andreini and CC, and we were surprised to realize both used the same bottom profile, done a bit differently.Both shapers installed a center concave from about 2 feet from the nose to just behind the center point.  So entry belly, concave, panel V - the concave more of a channel concave with a subtle edge on each side of the concave which then broke/rolled to the rails. Andreini concave wider with more angle break to the rails, CC narrower with less break to the rails.Do those with Andreini gliders seem the same bottom installed?  Or on the other gliders mentioned?As mentioned, like to dig into board dims and contours, helps me understand why what works does, and why what doesn't...doesn't."], ["81100", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 18, "Surfnfish", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T19:10:18-0400", "jbb\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSurfnfish\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            great advice so far.  Going to go with the 10' since blank already in, size up on the next one.Really liking the outline on this one.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tMy daily driver is a 10'3 version of this board. Rides a foot shorter than actual length but, catches just about anything. I ride the crap out of it in everything from sloppy beach break to lined up winter point swell. I've owned or ridden the mabile, m. miller, frye, numerous other San Diego shaper's glider models and my rat rod pin striped Andreini is the best, hands down. To each their own\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tpics?"], ["81102", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 19, "jbb", "Oct 15, 2015", "2015-10-15T19:54:52-0400", "Surfnfish\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\njbb\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSurfnfish\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            great advice so far.  Going to go with the 10' since blank already in, size up on the next one.Really liking the outline on this one.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tMy daily driver is a 10'3 version of this board. Rides a foot shorter than actual length but, catches just about anything. I ride the crap out of it in everything from sloppy beach break to lined up winter point swell. I've owned or ridden the mabile, m. miller, frye, numerous other San Diego shaper's glider models and my rat rod pin striped Andreini is the best, hands down. To each their own\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tpics?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nNot tonight. The P.C. is down for repair and that's where all the photos are located."], ["81104", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 20, "jbb", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-15T20:31:20-0400", "jbb\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSurfnfish\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\njbb\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSurfnfish\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            great advice so far.  Going to go with the 10' since blank already in, size up on the next one.Really liking the outline on this one.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tMy daily driver is a 10'3 version of this board. Rides a foot shorter than actual length but, catches just about anything. I ride the crap out of it in everything from sloppy beach break to lined up winter point swell. I've owned or ridden the mabile, m. miller, frye, numerous other San Diego shaper's glider models and my rat rod pin striped Andreini is the best, hands down. To each their own\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tpics?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nNot tonight. The P.C. is down for repair and that's where all the photos are located.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nMine is the baby blue one in the middle. all three boards are virtually the same lengths\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nmore Glider talk -\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n[link removed]\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81115", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 21, "finshack", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T07:31:10-0400", "I'd go 10' 6'' and Larmo all the way, by far the best Glider I have, extremely user friendly and perfect beach break material, loved the one I got from JBB so much ordered another exactly the same, connects those sections like nothing else.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view"], ["81116", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 22, "finshack", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T07:32:10-0400", "More\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view"], ["81118", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 23, "finshack", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T07:33:59-0400", "Oh and fin as small as you dare, Skipper was transformed with 6' centre and 2.5'' sides, 8'' in everything else.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view"], ["81126", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 24, "Fishy", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T13:01:01-0400", "finshack\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            I'd go 10' 6'' and Larmo all the way, by far the best Glider I have, extremely user friendly and perfect beach break material, loved the one I got from JBB so much ordered another exactly the same, connects those sections like nothing else.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tHey finshack, when you say 'glider' from Larry Mabile, do you mean 'Eagle' or some other model?"], ["81132", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 25, "jbb", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T15:35:42-0400", "Fishy\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nfinshack\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            I'd go 10' 6'' and Larmo all the way, by far the best Glider I have, extremely user friendly and perfect beach break material, loved the one I got from JBB so much ordered another exactly the same, connects those sections like nothing else.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tHey finshack, when you say 'glider' from Larry Mabile, do you mean 'Eagle' or some other model?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThe board he scored from me and the board in Finshack's  photo above - both are Larmo's double eagle models.  I've attached another from Larmo's website:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nhttp://www.thirdworldexoticsurfboards.com/#!longboardsmidlengths/c1gsq\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nI would also recommend Larry's Big Swallow and Magic models @ ten feet + length for max fun cruizin.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nA few weeks ago, I had the extreme pleasure of borrowing a good friend's 11ft Larmo Big Swallow w Fishsimmons fin set up.  Caught a handful of the best waves anyone rode that session on this board.  SDSurferguy should have been there!\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nStill like the Andreini best of all.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81133", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 26, "Fishy", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T15:47:22-0400", "JBB  If you were looking for a glider for TINY waves would you still go andreini? Or would you go magic? Seems like a lot of the comments about gliders are really about big waves. I'm looking for a board for knee high rollers that I can still change direction on."], ["81134", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 27, "jbb", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T16:02:44-0400", "My 10'3\" Andreini rat rod works in small and big. Look at that surf in the background of the photo I posted, last night. That morning we were surfing 1-2 ft point surf. Small and still fun down the line cruising, top to bottom, small cut backs and a couple of steps forward to regain momentum.  \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe Larmo double eagle at 10'6\", which Finshack bought from me, was my second favorite board of all time after that Andreini.  The Double Eagle was undeniable in 1' surf.  The shapes are very different but how much variation will prevent a 10+ foot long board from catching small waves?\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nCurrently, I'm riding a 10' Michael Miller egg which is the same template as his version of the eagle, only it has a fuller, rounder tail.  I've had similar experience with the M.Miller egg that I have with Larmo eagle and Andreini long vaquero. Ridden them in surf from 1' to O.H.  All are very good but the Andreini has always been better, especially in pumping energy.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBy the way, I have to give credit to Chris T and Big Steve for opening the door for me to the glider experience.  Even though I grew up in P.B. and had owned Frye long boards 20 years ago, it wasn't until about 6-7 years ago that I really got hooked. Generally, I ride gliders 70% of the time now. The big break through for me was when I bought my first Larmo 10 ft Big Swallow twinzer.    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThey are all good IMHO. It just depends on the rider.  For what it's worth, Smukes' recommendation above is compelling because that Phillips model he refers to is exactly the custom I'm contemplating ordering from Jim."], ["81140", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 28, "SdSurferguy", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T17:40:54-0400", "jbb\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            My 10'3\" Andreini rat rod works in small and big. Look at that surf in the background of the photo I posted, last night. That morning we were surfing 1-2 ft point surf. Small and still fun down the line cruising, top to bottom, small cut backs and a couple of steps forward to regain momentum.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe Larmo double eagle at 10'6\", which Finshack bought from me, was my second favorite board of all time after that Andreini.  The Double Eagle was undeniable in 1' surf.  The shapes are very different but how much variation will prevent a 10+ foot long board from catching small waves?\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nCurrently, I'm riding a 10' Michael Miller egg which is the same template as his version of the eagle, only it has a fuller, rounder tail.  I've had similar experience with the M.Miller egg that I have with Larmo eagle and Andreini long vaquero. Ridden them in surf from 1' to O.H.  All are very good but the Andreini has always been better, especially in pumping energy.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBy the way, I have to give credit to Chris T and Big Steve for opening the door for me to the glider experience.  Even though I grew up in P.B. and had owned Frye long boards 20 years ago, it wasn't until about 6-7 years ago that I really got hooked. Generally, I ride gliders 70% of the time now. The big break through for me was when I bought my first Larmo 10 ft Big Swallow twinzer.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThey are all good IMHO. It just depends on the rider.  For what it's worth, Smukes' recommendation above is compelling because that Phillips model he refers to is exactly the custom I'm contemplating ordering from Jim.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\t1+ on all of this. The photos on this page have me drooling. All the names mentioned so far are great. I'm more partial to the Larmos because of price. Definitely go 10'+, I think 10'6-11' is ideal depending on your size/weight. And gliders work fantastic in small waves too, some of my most memorable waves have been barely knee high."], ["81141", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 29, "BoardAddict", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T17:56:05-0400", "Josh Hall Le Slivair!  A \"skinny\" Eagle template of sorts....likes a bit of oommff!!"], ["81142", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 30, "Ticowannabe", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T18:01:41-0400", "i think standard low rocker gliders work best in points or easier drop, long set-up beach breaks...i have ridden a bunch and agree with jbb, the andreini's perform much better/more agile for me in bigger surf and still do very well in the small stuff\n\n\n\njbb's 10'3 convinced me to get my 11'er...both are great boards"], ["81143", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 31, "jbb", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T18:06:10-0400", "BoardAddict\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Josh Hall Le Slivair! A \"skinny\" Eagle template of sorts....likes a bit of oommff!!\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nPerfect description. I rode this model at Middles in stormy surf earlier this year. Length was 10'10\".  Loved it.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nhttp://www.joshhallsurfboards.com/le-sliviar/\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81144", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 32, "jbb", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T18:11:26-0400", "Ticowannabe\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            i think standard low rocker gliders work best in points or easier drop, long set-up beach breaks...i have ridden a bunch and agree with jbb, the andreini's perform much better/more agile for me in bigger surf and still do very well in the small stuff\n\n\n\njbb's 10'3 convinced me to get my 11'er...both are great boards\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n Always happy to let someone borrow a board to experience for themselves.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nWhere are you located Surfnfish? Or Fishy?\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nYou are welcome to try my Andreinis, Michael Millers, etc. Few of us San Diego jammers meet almost every weekend to surf. And most of the crew have the same mind set: share the stoke, share the aloha, share the quiver."], ["81146", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 33, "jbb", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T18:45:40-0400", "SMUKES\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Get ahold of Jim Phillips and get one of those Hawaiian named things. Gliders are fer mush. That pointy smooth thing jim makes may be the most beautiful surfboard ive ever seen.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThis?  Looks killer-->\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n[link removed]\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81147", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 34, "jbb", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T18:58:22-0400", "one last thing:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nhttp://the-big-slide.blogspot.com/\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\neverything you could ever dream about that is glider related in this blog. bought my first Andreini used from this guy.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nok, enough noise from me. I've posted more in the past 24 hours than I have all year."], ["81149", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 35, "CosmicSlop", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T19:37:18-0400", "Another of Jim's in Japan..."], ["81150", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 36, "CosmicSlop", "Oct 16, 2015", "2015-10-16T19:38:56-0400", "fin..."], ["81153", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 37, "surfore", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-16T22:55:04-0400", "If you hadn't noticed the nose is on the right where the three sticks come together as ordered by Greg. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nThe Ka Po Ae'a is the most user friendly beach break or otherwise of the long longboards I've ridden and I've ridden and own a lot. This is total involvement surfing...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAnyone want to buy a lightly ridden 11' La Slivair contact me."], ["81154", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 38, "finshack", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T01:47:20-0400", "@Fishy Sorry yes those are Double Eagles\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 I guess 'Glider' is the collective noun, and Eagle, Double Eagle, Le Sliver, Ka Po Ae'a, Chris Craft etc are 'Models' who knows! ;-)"], ["81155", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 39, "finshack", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T01:48:47-0400", "surfore\n wrote:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Anyone want to buy a lightly ridden 11' La Slivair contact me.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tOh my\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6"], ["81156", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 40, "deadkipper", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T03:42:18-0400", "I had a slide on Finshacks green Larmo...will paddle into anything, your up riding on not even formed waves before anyone. Glide and section connections are unbelievable on it. Never had a bigger smile on my face."], ["81165", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 41, "GETWET", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T07:20:13-0400", "Speaking of these beautiful boards. Anybody selling a andreini, phillips, mabile or mitsven?  In that gliderish sytle 9'8\"and up to 10 footish or so.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n                            Thanks James"], ["81166", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 42, "GETWET", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T07:20:37-0400", "Speaking of these beautiful boards. Anybody selling a andreini, phillips, mabile or mitsven?  In that gliderish sytle 9'8\"and up to 10 footish or so.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n                            Thanks James"], ["81167", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 43, "GETWET", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T07:20:38-0400", "Speaking of these beautiful boards. Anybody selling a andreini, phillips, mabile or mitsven?  In that gliderish sytle 9'8\"and up to 10 footish or so.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n                            Thanks James"], ["81168", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 44, "EDILSGIBEHT", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T09:08:51-0400", "Another option is Dave Parmenter at aleutian juice surfboards.  His makaha machines work epic all around surf.  Check him at nowtro.com.  You won't be disappointed"], ["81170", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 45, "BoardAddict", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T11:39:38-0400", "Id consider parting with a 10'6 Le Slivair but am not \"looking\" to sell.  It is a warm grey tint.  Deck may have some pressures but board has ZERO dings and ZERO repairs..ever.  I am not motivated but willing for the right deal."], ["81176", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 46, "glidewaves", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T12:56:46-0400", "jbb\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            one last thing:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nhttp://the-big-slide.blogspot.com/\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\neverything you could ever dream about that is glider related in this blog. bought my first Andreini used from this guy.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nok, enough noise from me. I've posted more in the past 24 hours than I have all year.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\njbb this is one incredible blog, the board porn is sick.  thanks for sharing"], ["81181", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 47, "Pacis", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T13:55:04-0400", "Yummy find\n\n    \n    \n    \n    \n        \n        \n    \n\n    \n        \n    \n\n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n      Christenson Glider surfboard 10'6\" . a glider that can be turned. surf anywhere, surf anything\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n9.5 out of 10 condition. Paid 1500 new"], ["81182", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 48, "ElBrooklyn", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T14:19:49-0400", "Recently acquired 11-foot Christenson fishsimmons quad, courtesy of dorado.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81183", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 49, "ElBrooklyn", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T14:21:10-0400", "Flip side\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81186", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 50, "SdSurferguy", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T14:56:28-0400", "."], ["81187", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 51, "SdSurferguy", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T15:01:52-0400", "Pacis\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yummy find\n\n    \n    \n    \n    \n        \n        \n    \n\n    \n        \n    \n\n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n      Christenson Glider surfboard 10'6\" . a glider that can be turned. surf anywhere, surf anything\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n9.5 out of 10 condition. Paid 1500 new\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tThat board is absolutely stunning!I rode a 14' Christenson glider last year (yes, that isn't a typo). There is such a thing as too long."], ["81192", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 52, "Pacis", "Oct 17, 2015", "2015-10-17T19:28:15-0400", "SdSurferguy\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPacis\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yummy find\n\n    \n    \n    \n    \n        \n        \n    \n\n    \n        \n    \n\n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n      Christenson Glider surfboard 10'6\" . a glider that can be turned. surf anywhere, surf anything\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n9.5 out of 10 condition. Paid 1500 new\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tThat board is absolutely stunning!I rode a 14' Christenson glider last year (yes, that isn't a typo). There is such a thing as too long.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThis beauty is for sell in Santa Barbra ........ $ 875\n\n\n\nReally trying to show restraint ............ Anyone want to ride share"], ["81194", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 53, "Ticowannabe", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-17T21:57:20-0400", "Pacis\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nSdSurferguy\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nPacis\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yummy find\n\n    \n    \n    \n    \n        \n        \n    \n\n    \n        \n    \n\n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n      Christenson Glider surfboard 10'6\" . a glider that can be turned. surf anywhere, surf anything\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n9.5 out of 10 condition. Paid 1500 new\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tThat board is absolutely stunning!I rode a 14' Christenson glider last year (yes, that isn't a typo). There is such a thing as too long.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nThis beauty is for sell in Santa Barbra ........ $ 875\n\n\n\nReally trying to show restraint ............ Anyone want to ride share\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\treally like the look of this"], ["81195", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 54, "surfore", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-17T22:03:42-0400", "finshack\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nsurfore\n wrote:\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Anyone want to buy a lightly ridden 11' La Slivair contact me.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tOh my\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nMine does not have a ding or pressure. At 220 lbs it's too small (yes that is possible) for this husky 3 piece bar mitzvah wearing suit surfer.  It's narrow and light with a step deck and reverse wedge tband stringer so those of slight build should be jumping up and down for this one. Plus it comes with a bag. Surf it like an hp egg."], ["81196", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 55, "ekim", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-17T23:25:22-0400", "How can you turn them if they're flat rockered and paralleled railed?"], ["81201", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 56, "cuda", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T05:13:45-0400", "ekim\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            How can you turn them if they're flat rockered and paralleled railed?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand..."], ["81202", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 57, "Tully", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T05:39:32-0400", "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmkQ5nUsu1s"], ["81203", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 58, "cuda", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T06:13:52-0400", "CJ putting on a clinic!!\n\n\n\nanother favorite (from thebigslide blog)  see: Sik Sequence - Devon Howard  http://the-big-slide.blogspot.com/search?q=devon+howard"], ["81207", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 59, "Kingkook", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T08:07:15-0400", "Would a Phillips \"Big Bob\" be considered a glider?"], ["81210", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 60, "MrChristmas", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T09:35:14-0400", "https://vimeo.com/81007659"], ["81215", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 61, "deadkipper", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T13:27:42-0400", "https://vimeo.com/95753313"], ["81217", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 62, "Stringer", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T15:22:48-0400", "MrChristmas\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tI was waiting for someone to post this. I can't say enough good things about my megafish. Here is the other megafish video of Kyle surfing Malibu."], ["81218", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 63, "Big D", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T15:42:17-0400", "All the videos shown are in long drawn out point and reef surf. There's a reason for that.\n\n\n\nLast thing I'd choose to ride in short lived, punchy, dumpy, beach break would be a long railed, flat rocker glider. By all means, if you want a glider in the quiver get one. They are a blast to ride in the right conditions. But in my experience/opinion they generally aren't an optimal board choice for most beach break set-ups. I'd look at other boards in my quiver before contemplating my 10' 10\"."], ["81219", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 64, "Ticowannabe", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T15:47:25-0400", "Big D\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            All the videos shown are in long drawn out point and reef surf. There's a reason for that.\n\n\n\nLast thing I'd choose to ride in short lived, punchy, dumpy, beach break would be a long railed, flat rocker glider. By all means, if you want a glider in the quiver get one. They are a blast to ride in the right conditions. But in my experience/opinion they generally aren't an optimal board choice for most beach break set-ups. I'd look at other boards in my quiver before contemplating my 10' 10\".\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tYep, Thanks D"], ["81220", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 65, "Big D", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T15:49:16-0400", "On the opposite end\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\n\n\n\nThis is me, at a beach break, on a glider, when the conditions were during a king high tide so it was flattening everything out. Exception to the rule\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6but what the hell do I know. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81221", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 66, "Ticowannabe", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T15:55:17-0400", "Big D\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            On the opposite end\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\n\n\n\nThis is me, at a beach break, on a glider, when the conditions were during a king high tide so it was flattening everything out. Exception to the rule\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6but what the hell do I know. \n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tno contradiction there"], ["81223", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 67, "Surfnfish", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T16:32:24-0400", "Big D\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            All the videos shown are in long drawn out point and reef surf. There's a reason for that.\n\n\n\nLast thing I'd choose to ride in short lived, punchy, dumpy, beach break would be a long railed, flat rocker glider. By all means, if you want a glider in the quiver get one. They are a blast to ride in the right conditions. But in my experience/opinion they generally aren't an optimal board choice for most beach break set-ups. I'd look at other boards in my quiver before contemplating my 10' 10\".\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nyep, routinely cycle through a half dozen boards at the local, ranging from racy midlengths to fun guns to hplb's shorter to longer.  This will just be another add to the quiver for days when it would be fun, why we have quivers.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand..."], ["81224", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 68, "MrChristmas", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T16:48:09-0400", "Ticowannabe\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nBig D\n wrote:\n Kinda disagree with both of you. Yea the Videos are point Breaks. Beach Breaks change and when the tide is right and the swell direction is right there's magic to riding a Glider. Here's a good friend on an 11'. I think JBB can Vouch for our group. Ps Aaron Chang has photographed Andrew many times Deep-Deep in the tube. \n\n\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            All the videos shown are in long drawn out point and reef surf. There's a reason for that.\n\n\n\nLast thing I'd choose to ride in short lived, punchy, dumpy, beach break would be a long railed, flat rocker glider. By all means, if you want a glider in the quiver get one. They are a blast to ride in the right conditions. But in my experience/opinion they generally aren't an optimal board choice for most beach break set-ups. I'd look at other boards in my quiver before contemplating my 10' 10\".\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Yep, Thanks D\n        \n\n\nClick to expand..."], ["81225", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 69, "Big D", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T18:02:51-0400", "There's always an exception to the rule. Well overhead, lined up Torrey Pines breaking 100 yards off shore is one of them. It probably breaks like that a small handful of times a year in that pic. That's why I stated \"generally\" and \"most\". I didn't want to go down the road of \"Can't\" and \"won't work\". I'm certainly aware there are.\n\n\n\nI like a board to be a lot more sharp on the turn, loose and reactive in general beach break with the shifting, racey sections and peaks that beach breaks will provide. There are always \"those days\", but again I don't find true gliders as an optimal board choice for every day beach break use. If he's looking to stay large with a board for general beach break usage I'd go with other options. That's just me..."], ["81226", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 70, "SharkB8", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T18:13:18-0400", "What ideas do you have in mind big d?"], ["81227", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 71, "MrChristmas", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T18:16:42-0400", "Yea but they are fun. True lots of foam to paddle but a board that can ride in most conditions in Southern Calif makes it that much more fun it always isn't optimum is true. The other alternative is to surf the crowded points with tons of people and get only a hand full of waves or surf a ass-kick'n beach break and hone your skills. Here's an 11' X 24\" wide Larmo.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81228", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 72, "Big D", "Oct 18, 2015", "2015-10-18T18:33:07-0400", "No worries Christmas\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6I hear you. \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nShark B8\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6Depends. For  the beach break what size surf are we talking, skill set of the rider, size of boards he/she is use to riding, what's already in the quiver, ect. All would play into the factor of a board I'd loan him to try out. The guy is looking for more curve in the outline and more rocker so he's looking for something more responsive off the turn. Understanding the above would help zero in more on a suggestion."], ["81231", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 73, "Ticowannabe", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-18T20:57:01-0400", "Ticowannabe\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            i think standard low rocker gliders work best in points or easier drop, long set-up beach breaks...i have ridden a bunch and agree with jbb, the andreini's perform much better/more agile for me in bigger surf and still do very well in the small stuff\n\n\n\njbb's 10'3 convinced me to get my 11'er...both are great boards\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n^this was my first post...\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nQuestion was ...what glider for beach break\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nMr C, there are always exceptions based on ability and the desire to push equipment, as noted in your post \n\n\n\n\n \"\n\"theaaronchang\nAndrew Todd, the only surfer who consistently pulls into Torrey Pines.\"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nHad some long chats with surfnfish, he has ridden a lot of different waves worldwide, so must have a good skilset and lives in oregon, where the waves are generally different than so cal.  \n\n\n\ni'm curious to see what he gets and how it works out"], ["81232", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 74, "Wade In The Waves", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-18T21:19:24-0400", "I will say, from what you are describing what you are wanting, I would highly recommend a Vaquero in that range, just like JBB and a few others recommended.  Although beach break is a fairly new thing for me as I lean to Points, I have had a few conversations with Marc Andreini pertaining to surfing beach break, especially when preparing for my move to the land of beach breaks.  Marc surfs quite a bit of beach break and you know what he is surfing.  I would give him a call or shoot him an email and he will get you in the right direction.  Good luck and enjoy the journey."], ["81233", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 75, "finshack", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-18T23:06:10-0400", "Beach break is pretty much all I surf over here sadly. I would ride my Larmo in almost everything. It has enough nose rocker to allow steep drops and bottom turns and the speed to make all those crumbly sections. Works in chop, all kinds of nasty wind to\nnly time it's really out of it's depth is super steep fast close outs, but who wants to surf that anyhow.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDidn't get many waves this day but board coped better than me\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81234", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 76, "finshack", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-18T23:07:16-0400", "Double double"], ["81236", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 77, "poidog", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-19T02:24:40-0400", "I have a 10' Ricky Carroll glider (he calls it a Skipper), eps/epoxy, run it with a 9\" 4a. Love the ride so much I sold all my other longboards. \n\n\n\nHe's got some smooth magic going with the rocker (not an ironing board), rails (downish) and bottom (belly throughout). \n\n\n\nAll I surf is beachbreak."], ["81237", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 78, "MrChristmas", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-19T04:24:25-0400", "Here's one of me on a \"Hero Wave\" at the Beach Break. Got to remember, the bigger board gets the wave. Agree with Wade on the long Vaquero's as well, good all around board.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nAttached files"], ["81240", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 79, "SharkB8", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-19T05:04:48-0400", "Hey big d. The waves around here are usually shoulder and under. Sometimes we get up to 7-8 and then only a few times at the size is it not a washing machine. I'm a average surfer but Iv never been the best in a paddle battle. I like getting in the wave early. I Usually ride a 10-0 Austin soulglide or a 10-0 SWT. I have a hard time making sections. Guy here has a RC skipper that's 11 and he kills it. I picked up a 10-6 of the same and I like the glide aspect. We swapped and his felt like it was just so smooth and flowing. He caught a few with my 10-6 and said he liked it but for a heavier guy the 11 was better suited. He has seen me out and gives me suggestions. I ask for your advice and others here. We have beach beaks. Sometimes it just jacks up and is a close out wall. Many days it is like a wall. Not much shoulder and if it is then it's a race to get there. I have the ability and vehicles to take a few boards so interested in knowing whT others think in these conditions."], ["81244", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 80, "nedsurf", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-19T06:00:44-0400", "Not sure why but I'm really enjoying this thread. Some good discussion."], ["81245", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 81, "OCSURFER32", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-19T06:26:20-0400", "R\nSdSurferguy\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            I'm really enjoying this thread. Keep up the photos!Larmo. 10'2 x 23x ~4\" thick. \n\n\n\nJerry Garcia on the nose wishing you luck as you \"beat it on down the line\"\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nImage processing. Refresh page to view\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nClick to expand..."], ["81253", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 82, "SMUKES", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-19T08:35:54-0400", "ekim\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            How can you turn them if they're flat rockered and paralleled railed?\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nBy leaning."], ["81257", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 83, "Ticowannabe", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-19T10:02:09-0400", "finshack\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Beach break is pretty much all I surf over here sadly. I would ride my Larmo in almost everything. It has enough nose rocker to allow steep drops and bottom turns and the speed to make all those crumbly sections. Works in chop, all kinds of nasty wind to\nnly time it's really out of it's depth is super steep fast close outs, but who wants to surf that anyhow.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nDidn't get many waves this day but board coped better than me\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\n\tnothing wrong with peaky beach break like that"], ["81261", "1746", "what glider for beachbreak?", 84, "Makawaosurfer93", "Oct 19, 2015", "2015-10-19T11:11:30-0400", "nedsurf\n wrote: \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n            Not sure why but I'm really enjoying this thread. Some good discussion.\n        \n\n\nClick to expand...\n\n\n\n\nProbably because there is an exchange of ideas, thoughts and opinions and no one is being an A-hole, yet..."]], "truncated": false, "filtered_table_rows_count": 190, "expanded_columns": [], "expandable_columns": [[{"column": "thread_id", "other_table": "threads", "other_column": "thread_id"}, null]], "columns": ["post_id", "thread_id", "thread_title", "post_number", "author_username", "post_date", "post_date_iso", "post_body"], "primary_keys": ["post_id"], "units": {}, "query": {"sql": "select post_id, thread_id, thread_title, post_number, author_username, post_date, post_date_iso, post_body from posts where \"thread_id\" = :p0 order by post_id limit 101", "params": {"p0": "1746"}}, "facet_results": {}, "suggested_facets": [], "next": "81261", "next_url": "http://www.surf-archive.org/surfing/posts.json?thread_id=1746&_next=81261", "private": false, "allow_execute_sql": true, "query_ms": 7.8315640002983855, "license": "Public Domain"}